[IGFmaglist] Fwd: Material for agenda item 4

Wed Aug 7 05:03:18 EDT 2013

Dear Guo,

Many thanks for bringing this up and sorry to hear that you had sound problems. We have taken note of your request and the Secretariat will make sure that any errors that may have been made will be corrected. Your point about Chinese workshop proposals is well taken and we will do our utmost to make sure we have a strong presence from China.

In this context, you may be interested in learning that I had a good conversation with Prof Hu Qiheng when she was inducted into the Internet Hall of Fame last Saturday. (The induction ceremony will be made available as a video on this qwebsite: http://www.internethalloffame.org).  I invited Prof Hu to come to Bali and I am hopeful that she will joins us our annual meeting. She definitely would add weight to the Chinese presence at the 2013 IGF!

Best regards
Markus

On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:00 PM, Guo Liang <guoliang at gmail.com>
 wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>  
> I am very glad the financial problem for the IGF in Bali has been solved. Many thanks to those who made efforts.
>  
> I am sorry for not being able to hear the discussion after my speaking in today’s virtual meeting. So let me repeat again:
>  
> We all agree to encourage more developing countries to join IGF and we all see the challenges for them to participate. This year, there are only three workshop proposals from China, the largest “developing country” with the largest number of Internet users in the world. Yet, in the end, only one proposal from China was listed on the agenda.
>  
> It was suggested that the proposals scored above 4.42 would be automatically accepted. I didn’t get the reason why during the discussion in Geneva but the proposal #295, “Joint Effort on e-Knowledge in Developing Countries”, scored 4.41, proposed by Chinese Association of Science and Technology (CAST), was not accepted. It was listed as rejection had been sent to the proposer on the document of “Total Complete Breakdown by theme”. Yet the message seems has not reached CAST. Since they don’t know me in person, they let the secretary of Internet Society of China (ISC) to ask me if their proposal has been accepted. Learning their proposal was rejected, CAST people were very upset. They cannot contact the IGF Secretariat directly because they have not received formal rejection. So they asked the secretary of ISC to send me their arguments (see below).
>  
> Correct me if I am wrong. I think the proposal #291 “Could OTT Enterprises and Telecom Operators be Win-Win?”, proposed by Internet Society of China, was accepted at first in the discussion in Geneva. And then someone suggested that it would be better to be moved from the group of “enhanced cooperation” to “Internet for growth (economy)”. It was also listed as “move” in the document of “Total Complete Breakdown by theme”. I don’t know why but it was listed in neither groups on the agenda.
>  
> I know there are already too many workshops in this year’s IGF but may I suggest to make some efforts to have these voices from China been heard, either by merge with other proposals or any other methods.
>  
> Many thanks in advance for your consideration.
>  
> All the best,
>  
> Guo Liang
>  
>  
> Message sent to me by CAST:
> ---------------------
> Dear IGF Secretariat:
>  
> On behalf of the Chinese Association for Science and Technology (CAST) and the Task Group of Preservation of and Access to Scientific Data in Developing Countries, Committee on Data for Science and Technology, International Council of Sciences (CODATA/ICSU - PASTD), I send the letter to you for arising your awareness and more attention to our workshop proposal No. 295 on Joint Effort on e-Knowledge in Developing Countries.
>  
> As one of the WSIS actions, we have been focusing our efforts on e-science and e-knowledge in developing countries for more than ten years (CODATA/ICSU approved to set up the PASTD task group in 2002), we call worldwide awareness on the related issues at the IGF platform for 5 years. Great progress has been made since then.
>  
> Meeting the challenges from developing countries, we propose the new topic focused on the joint effort on e-Knowledge, we invited panels from multiple dimensions benefit the workshop, they are from CODATA/ICSU-PASTD (Chuang Liu, Secretary of the CODATA/ICSU-PASTD and Director of Digital Lin Chao Geomuseum), International Geographical Union (Ronald Abler, Past President of IGU), International Council for Sciences (Nohd Nordin Hasan, Director of ICSU Asian Office), government Officer (Anna Neves, Portugal government officer), Knowledge base manager (Xiang Zhou from Chinese Academy of Sciences) and Education (Xiaofeng Tao from Beijing University of Telecommunication) .
>  
> All of these panels pay great attention to the workshop since it is realized that this is an unusual opportunity to communicate between scientific community and policy makers.
>  
> We sincerely believe that the proposed workshop will be success and will be call more active actions in the e-knowledge in developing countries if you provide such opportunity to us in IGF.
>  
> The confrontation of IGF Requirement and what we have
> • Stakeholder groups represented
>        Organization of the workshop combines civil society, private sector and government
>  
> • Geography (especially participants from developing countries)
>        Organizations and speakers are from: China, Europe, America and Malaysia.
>  
> • Gender and age
>        Chuang LIU, Female, 50s.
> Ronald Abler, Male, 60s
> Xiang Zhou, , Male, 30s
> Anna Neves, Female, 40s
> Xiaofeng Tao, Male, 30s
> Mohd Nordin Hasan, Male, 50s
>  
> •The session includes organizers from at least two stakeholder groups (international organization, government, business, technical community, civil society, academia)
>        Our workshop has 5stakeholder groups, they are
>        Geographical Society of China, Civil Society
> International Geographical Union, Intergovernmental Organizations
> CODATA Task Group on Preservation of and Access to Scientific Data in/with/for Developing Countries, Civil Society
> European Union and International Relations negotiator in particular complex negotiations on public policies in Internet Economy, Government,
> Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications, academia
>        ICSU Regional Office for Asia and the Pacific, International Organization
> Digital LIN Chao Geomuseum, Private Sector
>  
> • In general, an organizer should avoid submitting a workshop proposal covering the same subject matter that was addressed in a workshop that s/he organized previously.  However, this may be acceptable if the new proposal clearly indicates how it will build on but go beyond the conclusions previously reached, instead of just repeating the earlier discussion.
> • Preparation of a background paper available well in advance of the IGF meeting introducing the subject and setting the scene for the discussions in the session. (Expected length of the document: 1-3 pages)
>  
> • Workshop organizers are encouraged to bring new faces to their workshops. In order to do so, they can consult with the resource persons list on the IGF website. The resource person list is available for viewing.
>        New Speakers:   Mohd Nordin Hasan- ICSU
>                                    Ronald Abler- International Geographical Union
> •Workshop organizers failing to meet this deadline will not be allowed to hold an event at the following IGF meeting.
> CAST had organized 5 workshops, and never fail to submit the report, each report can be view at the IGF website:
>  
> http://wsms1.intgovforum.org/content/no82-measures-and-practices-promoting-open-knowledge-environment-oke-developing-countries#report
>  
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposals2011View&wspid=62#report
>  
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=WSProposalsReports2010View&wspid=18
>  
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/index.php/component/chronocontact/?chronoformname=Workshopsreports2009View&curr=1&wr=96
>  
> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/2008-igf-hyderabad/event-reports/72-workshops/379-workshop-33-global-culture-for-cybersecurity
>  
> We satisfied each criteria, and beyond that, recently, we also invited WFEO-CIC to joint our workshop.
>  
> We strongly suggest IGF re-evaluate Workshop No. 295 and reconsider the decision, for the benefit of our potential participants of our workshop and the benefit of IGF which tied us together. 
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> MA Jing
>  
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