[IGFmaglist] MAG Virtual Meeting - Main Session discussion

Juan Fernandez Gonzalez juan.fernandez at mincom.gob.cu
Tue Jul 4 06:04:43 EDT 2017


Dear Flavio and Colleagues:

I think that your comment reinforces the idea of distributing the DCs throughout the Mains sessions.

Of course, those DCs that are already embedded in the design of a Main session does not have to report a second time.

Best regards

Juan

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Flavio Rech Wagner" <flavio at inf.ufrgs.br>
Para: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
Enviados: Martes, 4 de Julio 2017 10:58:50
Asunto: Re: [IGFmaglist] MAG Virtual Meeting - Main Session discussion

Dear Juan and colleagues

Please notice that our proposal for main session ("Local interventions, 
global impacts") adopts a slightly different approach. We have listed Dynamic 
Coalitions that have a strong connection to the themes of the main session. 
And people representing those Coalitions could be invited either as speakers 
or to make an extended intervention from the audience, in any case bringing 
the perspective of his/her Dynamic Coalition directly into the debate. We 
expect to implement this approach even if there is a separate main session 
for the Dynamic Coalitions.

Best

Flavio



Em 2017-07-04 05:04, Juan Fernandez Gonzalez escreveu:
> Dear Colleagues:
> 
> Reading Jac about engaging related DCs in the gender Main session, I wonder 
> if
> maybe this is an idea that can be extended to all DCs and all Main sessions.
> 
> Just consider the possibility that the 17 active DC are distributed between
> the 4 thematic Main sessions AND the other two: the HL Thematics session of
> day 2 and the one on NRIs.
> 
> We will have to decide which DC goes where. In order to help with this, I am
> attaching a grid proposal and the list of the active Dynamic Coalitions.
> 
> I think that this goes in the direction of increasing the link between the
> intersessional work and the annual IGF.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Juan
> 
> --
> Juan Alfonso Fernández González
> Asesor
> Ministerio de Comunicaciones
> República de Cuba
> Email: juan.fernandez at mincom.gob.cu
> Tel.: +535 2885103
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Mensaje original -----
> De: "Jac sm Kee" <jac at apcwomen.org>
> Para: "Juan Fernandez Gonzalez" <juan.fernandez at mincom.gob.cu>, "IGF 
> Maglist"
> <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
> Enviados: Lunes, 3 de Julio 2017 22:47:50
> Asunto: Re: [IGFmaglist] MAG Virtual Meeting - Main Session discussion
> 
> Thanks for this work Lynn. And agreed w/ Juan that related main sessions
> would be a good space to also share and discuss some of the BPF work.
> The MS on gender is intended to engage not jst BPFs but also related DCs.
> 
> I'm also really glad to see the NRIs submitting a thematic main session
> proposal on rights in the digital age. Considering that this topic has
> been raised numerous times as critical for the work of IGF - and is a
> framework with multiple dimensions and emerging questions on effective
> implementation, I strongly support this approach. I think it also
> provides a good shared and coordinated framework of discussion for the
> NRIs, which responds to some of Elizabeth's concerns - which I also share.
> 
> Best,
> jac
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Jac sm Kee
> Manager, Women's Rights Programme
> Association for Progressive Communications
> www.apc.org | www.takebackthetech.net | erotics.apc.org
> Jitsi: jacsmk | Skype: jacsmk | Twitter: @jhybe
> 
> On 03/07/2017 15:50, Juan Fernandez Gonzalez wrote:
>> Dear Colleagues:
>> 
>> If we aprove to go forward with the four thematic main sessions of the 
>> "straw" proposal, I suggest that In order to reinforce the intersessional 
>> work, at the beginning of the four thematic Main session a related Best 
>> Practice Forum could present a brief report.
>> 
>> The BPFs on Gender and on Cybersecurity, of course, in the Gender and 
>> Cybersecurity Main sessions respectively.
>> 
>> The other BPFs: the BPF on Internet exchange points (IXPs) in the Technical 
>> Subject Main session, and the BPF on commercial and economic incentives to 
>> deploy IPv6 on the Digital Economy Main session.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Juan
>> 
>> ----- Mensaje original -----
>> De: "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
>> Para: "Zeina BOUHARB" <zbouharb at yahoo.com>
>> CC: "IGF Maglist" <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>> Enviados: Lunes, 3 de Julio 2017 9:41:50
>> Asunto: Re: [IGFmaglist] MAG Virtual Meeting - Main Session discussion
>> 
>> Hi Zeina,
>> 
>> I do not want to get ahead of the full MAG discussion; yet at the same 
>> time, I want you to know that the topics you mention below are important 
>> and appreciated.  I am hopeful we can find a way to include these topics in 
>> the program should we go forward with the straw proposal.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Lynn
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Zeina BOUHARB <zbouharb at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear All,
>>> 
>>> The purpose of proposing the session on Social and Human dimensions of 
>>> Internet was to look at internet from different angles. it was intended to 
>>> highlight how internet is shaping our social, familial, cultural, and 
>>> medical future. the issue of e-reputation and digital identity is very 
>>> sensitive too.
>>> 
>>> But if you like to keep on discussing topics that were first raised since 
>>> 2006 and repeat sessions from last year, I withdraw my proposal.
>>> 
>>> Zeina
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 1, 2017, 12:49, Juan Fernandez Gonzalez 
>>> <juan.fernandez at mincom.gob.cu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear Lynn:
>>> 
>>> Thank you for an excellent summary of the state of the discussion 
>>> regarding the Main Sessions.
>>> 
>>> I want to give my support to the proposal of the 4 themes.
>>> 
>>> This results in the following 6 Main Sessiones:
>>> 
>>> 1-  Gender (2 hours)
>>> 2-  Cybersecurity (3 hours)
>>> 3-  Digital Economy (3 hours)
>>> 4-  Technical Subject (3 hours)
>>> 5-   NRI (3 hours)
>>> 6-   DC (1.5 hours)
>>> 
>>> I am attaching a document with two grid proposals for possible 
>>> distribution of these Main Sessions.
>>> 
>>> I hope that it can help in the discussion on the next virtual meeting.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> Juan
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Juan Alfonso Fernández González
>>> Asesor
>>> Ministerio de Comunicaciones
>>> República de Cuba
>>> Email: juan.fernandez at mincom.gob.cu
>>> Tel.: +535 2885103
>>> 
>>> De: "Lynn St.Amour" <st.amour at bluewin.ch>
>>> Para: "IGF Maglist" <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>>> Enviados: Viernes, 30 de Junio 2017 18:37:14
>>> Asunto: [IGFmaglist] MAG Virtual Meeting - Main Session discussion
>>> 
>>> Dear MAG members,
>>> 
>>> at our next virtual MAG meeting we are scheduled to finalize the Main 
>>> Sessions.
>>> 
>>> We made some good progress at our last MAG meeting and after carefully 
>>> reviewing the transcript and the Adobe Connect chat log, I have tried to 
>>> capture the current state below.  Apologies for the length of this email, 
>>> but I thought it best to pull all the threads together.
>>> 
>>> Back to the Beginning
>>> 
>>> So we know what we are working with:
>>> 
>>> "Day 0”  2017 is slightly unusual.  Given the IGF is being held late in 
>>> the year, the IGF meeting schedule was advanced one day.  This means that 
>>> Day 0 is on a Sunday (not Monday).   This complicated some of the Day 0 
>>> events.  This combined with the Swiss government’s desire for the Host 
>>> Country opening and ceremonial sessions to be more interactive and more 
>>> integrated with the rest of the IGF program, led to a new proposal.  It 
>>> was proposed that the Opening session (Monday afternoon) include a 
>>> topic-based discussion among high-level speakers, tentatively titled, 
>>> ‘What rules for our global digital polity?’ This would be followed on the 
>>> second day of the IGF meeting with a high-level thematic (Main) session on 
>>> (again tentatively titled) 'the Impact of digitization on politics, public 
>>> trust and democracy’.  These sessions would be multistakeholder in nature 
>>> with participation from all SH groups.  After some discussion within the 
>>> MAG, it was agreed to proceed, despite there being some concern re setting 
>>> a precedent and using an additional Main Session slot.   At the same time, 
>>> many welcomed the innovative approach noting it addressed concerns heard 
>>> in many of the previous years.  So, this is a pilot.
>>> 
>>> Where are We?
>>> 
>>> Given we have the Opening and Closing Ceremonies/Sessions and the "High 
>>> Level Thematic” Session, this leaves five (5) 3 hour Main session slots 
>>> (see attached grid).
>>> 
>>> Coming out of the MAG meeting we have:
>>> 
>>> a)  6 Main Session proposals remaining: 1 - Gender Inclusion and Future of 
>>> the Internet (2 hours), 2 - Human and Social Dimensions of the Internet 
>>> (1.5 hours), 3 - Creating an Inclusive Workforce in a Digital Economy,  4 
>>> - Empowering Global Cooperation, Cybersecurity for Sustainable Development 
>>> and Peace, 5 - Data for Sustainable Development Roadmaps, 6 -  Local 
>>> Interventions, Global Impacts, How Can International Multistakeholder 
>>> Cooperation Address Internet Shut-downs, Encryption and Data Flows?
>>> 
>>> b)  a request from the DCs for a 1.5 hour Main session slot - Title: TBD 
>>> (preference was for a 3 hour slot, but recognizing various program 
>>> constraints this was reduced)
>>> 
>>> c) a request from the NRIs for a 3 hour Main session slot: ‘Rights in the 
>>> digital/online world’ (separate document has been sent by the NRIs to the 
>>> MAG)
>>> 
>>> d) the Connecting and Enabling the Next Billion(s) Phase III has said they 
>>> will work to integrate their activities into the overall IGF Program.
>>> 
>>> And, to be discussed separately from Main Sessions, we also have a request 
>>> from the NRIs for  6 - 12 thematic Workshops.
>>> 
>>> MAG members made several suggestions regarding Main Session selections, 
>>> notably to look at possible mergers as well as to shorten requested 
>>> durations.  The first pass of this was done during the MAG meeting.
>>> 
>>> One proposal (supported by several MAG members from different SH groups) 
>>> was to select a small number of main themes to align/develop Main Session 
>>> proposals around (something we lost when we moved to the community “tags” 
>>> process for the workshops).   Suggestions were: Cybersecurity, Gender, 
>>> Digital Economy, and a Technical Subject ("such as the merged proposal on 
>>> the local interventions, multistakeholder cooperation on Internet 
>>> shutdowns, encryption and data flows").    If the MAG decides to go 
>>> forward with this approach we would align/develop the Main Session 
>>> proposals above with these 4 themes.  This will require either 
>>> consolidation or potentially moving some of the Main Session proposals 
>>> above to a WS slot if the MAG feels this is appropriate.
>>> 
>>> There was also a proposal made by a MAG member that there were overlaps 
>>> (“super-positions of subjects”) between 3 Main Session proposals: 
>>> "Creating an Inclusive Workforce in the Digital Economy”, "Human and 
>>> Social Dimensions of the Internet", and "Data for Sustainable Development 
>>> Roadmaps” and that these should be factored down to (2?) main subjects.  I 
>>> believe this proposal complements the one above.
>>> 
>>> Also there was considerable interest in the proposal on "Data for 
>>> Sustainable Development Roadmaps” but a number of MAG members felt this 
>>> was better suited to a WS format rather than a Main session.
>>> 
>>> Straw Chair Proposal
>>> 
>>> Building on the suggestions above and in order to help focus our 
>>> discussions, I would like to put forward a 'Straw Chair Proposal’, subject 
>>> obviously, to the MAG's approval.
>>> 
>>> Chair Proposal: We go forward with the 4 themes proposed (tentative Main 
>>> Session alignment below):
>>> 
>>> Four (4) Themes:
>>> Cybersecurity - (4) Empowering Global Cooperation, Cybersecurity for 
>>> Sustainable Development and Peace
>>> Gender - (1) Gender Inclusion and Future of the Internet (2 hours)
>>> Digital Economy - (3) Creating an Inclusive Workforce in a Digital 
>>> Economy,
>>> Technical Subject - (6) Local Interventions, Global Impacts, How Can 
>>> International Multistakeholder Cooperation Address Internet Shut-downs, 
>>> Encryption and Data Flows?
>>> 
>>> This leaves 2 Main Session proposals: 2 - Human and Social Dimensions of 
>>> the Internet (1.5 hours), and 5 - Data for Sustainable Development 
>>> Roadmaps to either be integrated into other Main sessions or perhaps moved 
>>> to a WS slot if the MAG feels this is appropriate.
>>> 
>>> Going forward with the 4 Themes above leaves us with the following slots: 
>>> 1 x 3 hour Main session, and 1 x 1 hour Main Session slot (as the Gender 
>>> Main session is requesting 2 hours).  Total Available: 4 hours
>>> 
>>> The DCs have requested a 1.5 hour slot (title: TBD), and the NRIs have 
>>> requested a 3 hour slot titled: ‘Rights in the digital/online world’.  As 
>>> agreed, the NRIs will speak to this in our upcoming MAG meeting.  Total 
>>> Requested: 4.5 hours
>>> 
>>> My reading of the discussions in the MAG meeting and on the MAG mailing 
>>> list with respect to the importance of all the Intersessional work is that 
>>> there is substantial support for Main session slots for the DCs and the 
>>> NRIs (from several SH groups).  At the same time there were questions 
>>> raised by some MAG members and alternative proposals put forward; and 
>>> these are under review by the NRIs and the MAG.  Note: there has not yet 
>>> been a consensus call within the MAG, this will take place at our MAG 
>>> meeting next week.  Also, please note: while I am personally very 
>>> supportive of giving the DCs and the NRIs Main Session time, I am only 
>>> trying to reflect what I hear from the MAG overall.   If someone sees a 
>>> different 'emerging consensus', please say so.
>>> 
>>> If the MAG approves the 4 Themes approach above, and *if* the DC and NRI 
>>> requests are approved *as they stand*, we will be over the available time 
>>> by 30 minutes - so I see a few possible paths: 1 - the MAG asks the Main 
>>> session proposers (and NRIs) if anyone could make a *2.5 hour split* Main 
>>> session slot work (that is a 1 hour slot followed by a break and then a 
>>> 1.5 hour slot or vice versa (giving 2.5 vs. 3 hours), 2 - another 
>>> alternative is the NRIs have a 1.5 hour slot mirroring the DCs or, 3 - one 
>>> of the "4 Theme” sessions above reduces their time to 1.5 hours (allowing 
>>> the NRIs a 3 hour slot).  Note: if Option 2 is selected (a 1.5 hour slot 
>>> for the NRIs), we still have a 1 hour slot available (perhaps for either 
>>> the CENB program or one of the other 2 proposed Main Sessions?).
>>> 
>>> I very much appreciate the clear intent from everyone to work together to 
>>> build a great IGF program.  Clearly, there is work to be done going 
>>> forward to weave all the IGF activities together and this work will be 
>>> undertaken in the MAG WGs (and are open to non-MAG members).
>>> 
>>> Thankfully, there are a lot of creative people on the MAG.  So please 
>>> review this carefully and send in any comments or suggestions, preferably 
>>> ahead of next weeks MAG meeting so we can close expeditiously on this 
>>> topic.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Lynn
>>> 
>>> 
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