[Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey

Fri Sep 25 10:25:36 EDT 2015

Yes.  Precisely my point.

On 9/25/15, 10:12 AM, "Chip Sharp (chsharp)" <chsharp at cisco.com> wrote:

>Jane,
>
>While we can learn a lot from things that didn¹t work, there is sometimes
>a stigma attached to ³unsuccessful² that makes people reticent to talk
>about.  I know my unsuccessful ventures aren¹t always at the top of my
>list. :-)
>
>There have been IXPs that have not worked out for a variety of reasons.
>If we could identify the challenges they faced (in the spirit of
>learning) then it would be very useful.
>
>I¹m also interested in IXPs that were struggling, but turned around and
>started growing after a change either in regulatory policy or internal
>IXP membership or peering policy.
>
>Chip
>
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Jane Coffin <coffin at isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Do we want to say ³unsuccessful² or do we want to say IXP challenges.
>>What some consider unsuccessful can often be attributed to instances
>>where governments have created challenges or the local team is not
>>organized bottom-up in a sustainable way?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> From: Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE <coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE <coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Friday, September 25, 2015 at 10:54 AM
>> To: Jane <coffin at isoc.org>, Wim Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be>, Kyle
>>Spencer <kyle at stormzero.com>, Bijal Sanghani <bijal at euro-ix.net>, Gael
>>Hernandez <gael.hernandez at asitic.net>
>> Cc: "bp_ixps at intgovforum.org" <bp_ixps at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey
>> 
>> Hello Wim;
>> 
>> Suggesting in your amendment as follows and in red in color:
>> 
>> (0) Introduction
>> ( definition of an IXP, history, facts )
>> (1) What is the role and benefits of Internet exchange points?
>> (2) Identification of the main stakeholders and their roles
>> (3) The dimensions of the environment
>> (policy&regulatory, technology & infrastructure, people & HR)
>> (4) Setting up an IXP:  choices and challenges
>> (organisation form, challenges, answers)
>> (5) Examples
>> (case studies of successful and  unsuccessful  stories, or links to
>>reports describing them)
>> (6) Widely accepted criteria for an enabling environment for IXP success
>> (this should also include the take away or (policy) messages from the
>>BPF IXPs)
>> (7) Further information
>> 
>> NB: It is very important to learn from both successful and unsuccessful
>>cases
>>  
>> 
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>> With kind regards;
>> Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE
>> IT Specialist; System and Network Administrator-Manager of the
>> Government Communication System (COMGOV) & National Datacenter at SETIC
>>Burundi; 
>> Chairman of BurundiX A.S.B.L/ Burundian IXP Non-profit Association; and
>> ISOC Burundi Chapter Member.
>> 
>> Mobile: +257 (79/76) 365 000
>> Email: coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:25 AM, Jane Coffin
>><coffin at isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Wim -
>> 
>> Agree.  I am at an IXP training/leveling up workshop in Asia and those
>>are all factors involved in start-up, leveling-up, etc.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> From: Bp_ixps <bp_ixps-bounces at intgovforum.org> on behalf of Wim
>>Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:36 PM
>> To: Kyle Spencer <kyle at stormzero.com>, Bijal Sanghani
>><bijal at euro-ix.net>, Gael Hernandez <gael.hernandez at asitic.net>
>> Cc: "bp_ixps at intgovforum.org" <bp_ixps at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: [Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey
>> 
>> Hi Kyle, Bijal, Gaël,
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> 
>> Based on the survey responses I identified a couple of key points
>>which, in my opinion, should part of the core of our best practice
>>document: 
>> 
>> 
>> - organisation form
>> ° different organisations forms
>> ° reasons for choosing a particular form
>> ° evaluation, pros/cons of the different organisation forms
>> 
>> - Challenges
>> ° challenges to create/set up an IXP
>> - funding
>> - get political support / deal with resistance
>> - relation to the incumbent or main telco
>> - ...
>> ° challenges after launching the IXP
>> - enlarging the IXP¹s membership
>> - developing an IXP Community
>> - technical training / find the technical staff
>> - cost to connect members to the IXP facility (dark fiber cost)
>> - power (dev. countries)
>> - Š 
>> 
>> ° how IXPs dealt with the challenges
>> 
>> 
>> I have some difficulty to accommodate these in the current structure of
>>the document.
>> Therefore I suggest to amend the structure as follows:
>> 
>> 
>> (0) Introduction
>> ( definition of an IXP, history, facts )
>> (1) What is the role and benefits of Internet exchange points?
>> (2) Identification of the main stakeholders and their roles
>> (3) The dimensions of the environment
>> (policy&regulatory, technology & infrastructure, people & HR)
>> (4) Setting up an IXP:  choices and challenges
>> (organisation form, challenges, answers)
>> (5) Examples
>> (case studies of success stories, or links to reports describing them)
>> (6) Widely accepted criteria for an enabling environment for IXP success
>> (this should also include the take away or (policy) messages from the
>>BPF IXPs)
>> (7) Further information
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I¹m looking forward to your feedback!
>> 
>> Best
>> Wim
>> 
>> 
>> _________________________
>> 
>> Wim Degezelle
>> DUERMOVO - DRMV
>> 
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>> 
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