[Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey

[Bastiaan Goslings]

(I sent a message earlier this afternoon re a recent talk @UKNOF on the ‘great British IXP failures’ which might be of interest - it’s stuck in a moderator queue though because of screenshots I attached)


> On 25 Sep 2015, at 16:12, Chip Sharp (chsharp) <chsharp at cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Jane,
> 
> While we can learn a lot from things that didn’t work, there is sometimes a stigma attached to “unsuccessful” that makes people reticent to talk about.  I know my unsuccessful ventures aren’t always at the top of my list. :-)
> 
> There have been IXPs that have not worked out for a variety of reasons.  If we could identify the challenges they faced (in the spirit of learning) then it would be very useful.  
> 
> I’m also interested in IXPs that were struggling, but turned around and started growing after a change either in regulatory policy or internal IXP membership or peering policy.
> 
> Chip
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Jane Coffin <coffin at isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi -
>> 
>> Do we want to say “unsuccessful” or do we want to say IXP challenges.  What some consider unsuccessful can often be attributed to instances where governments have created challenges or the local team is not organized bottom-up in a sustainable way?
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> From: Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE <coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com>
>> Reply-To: Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE <coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Friday, September 25, 2015 at 10:54 AM
>> To: Jane <coffin at isoc.org>, Wim Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be>, Kyle Spencer <kyle at stormzero.com>, Bijal Sanghani <bijal at euro-ix.net>, Gael Hernandez <gael.hernandez at asitic.net>
>> Cc: "bp_ixps at intgovforum.org" <bp_ixps at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey
>> 
>> Hello Wim;
>> 
>> Suggesting in your amendment as follows and in red in color:
>> 
>> (0) Introduction
>> ( definition of an IXP, history, facts )
>> (1) What is the role and benefits of Internet exchange points?
>> (2) Identification of the main stakeholders and their roles
>> (3) The dimensions of the environment
>> (policy&regulatory, technology & infrastructure, people & HR)
>> (4) Setting up an IXP:  choices and challenges
>> (organisation form, challenges, answers)
>> (5) Examples
>> (case studies of successful and  unsuccessful  stories, or links to reports describing them)
>> (6) Widely accepted criteria for an enabling environment for IXP success
>> (this should also include the take away or (policy) messages from the BPF IXPs)
>> (7) Further information 
>> 
>> NB: It is very important to learn from both successful and unsuccessful cases
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> With kind regards;
>> Coppens Pasteur NDAYIRAGIJE
>> IT Specialist; System and Network Administrator-Manager of the 
>> Government Communication System (COMGOV) & National Datacenter at SETIC Burundi; 
>> Chairman of BurundiX A.S.B.L/ Burundian IXP Non-profit Association; and 
>> ISOC Burundi Chapter Member. 
>> 
>> Mobile: +257 (79/76) 365 000
>> Email: coppens.ndayiragije at yahoo.com
>> REPUBLIC OF BURUNDI-AFRICA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 12:25 AM, Jane Coffin <coffin at isoc.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Wim -
>> 
>> Agree.  I am at an IXP training/leveling up workshop in Asia and those are all factors involved in start-up, leveling-up, etc.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> From: Bp_ixps <bp_ixps-bounces at intgovforum.org> on behalf of Wim Degezelle <wdegezelle at drmv.be>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 11:36 PM
>> To: Kyle Spencer <kyle at stormzero.com>, Bijal Sanghani <bijal at euro-ix.net>, Gael Hernandez <gael.hernandez at asitic.net>
>> Cc: "bp_ixps at intgovforum.org" <bp_ixps at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: [Bp_ixps] BPF IXP - document structure and survey
>> 
>> Hi Kyle, Bijal, Gaël, 
>> Hi All, 
>> 
>> 
>> Based on the survey responses I identified a couple of key points which, in my opinion, should part of the core of our best practice document: 
>> 
>> 
>> - organisation form
>> ° different organisations forms
>> ° reasons for choosing a particular form
>> ° evaluation, pros/cons of the different organisation forms
>> 
>> - Challenges
>> ° challenges to create/set up an IXP
>> - funding
>> - get political support / deal with resistance
>> - relation to the incumbent or main telco
>> - ...
>> ° challenges after launching the IXP
>> - enlarging the IXP’s membership
>> - developing an IXP Community
>> - technical training / find the technical staff
>> - cost to connect members to the IXP facility (dark fiber cost)
>> - power (dev. countries)
>> - … 
>> 
>> ° how IXPs dealt with the challenges
>> 
>> 
>> I have some difficulty to accommodate these in the current structure of the document.
>> Therefore I suggest to amend the structure as follows:
>> 
>> 
>> (0) Introduction
>> ( definition of an IXP, history, facts )
>> (1) What is the role and benefits of Internet exchange points?
>> (2) Identification of the main stakeholders and their roles
>> (3) The dimensions of the environment
>> (policy&regulatory, technology & infrastructure, people & HR)
>> (4) Setting up an IXP:  choices and challenges
>> (organisation form, challenges, answers)
>> (5) Examples
>> (case studies of success stories, or links to reports describing them)
>> (6) Widely accepted criteria for an enabling environment for IXP success
>> (this should also include the take away or (policy) messages from the BPF IXPs)
>> (7) Further information 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m looking forward to your feedback!
>> 
>> Best
>> Wim
>> 
>> 
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