[AI-IoT-BD] Fwd: changing the title of BPF AI, IOT, Big Data, Marilynscade at hotmail.com

[June Parris]

Dear All,

I have to agree with Marilyn. Too much time is being spent on name changing
when there is so much other work to do. I do not see how it will make a
difference to the work by changing a name. When there is so much debate
over quite unnecessary moves, members begin to loose interest. We need to
get on with the document that is due to be completed by the end of August,
let us discuss how we will go about doing the work that we should be doing.

Please can we have some further instructions with regards to the plan. I
know what I volunteered to do, but how do I start?

Regards

June Parris

On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 at 04:47, CASSA Concettina <cassa at agid.gov.it> wrote:

> Dear All,
> Please find following the message from Marylin Cade.
> Best,
> Titti
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com<mailto:
> marilynscade at hotmail.com>>
> Date: 12 August 2018 at 22:12:24 CEST
> To: CASSA Concettina <cassa at agid.gov.it<mailto:cassa at agid.gov.it>>,
> Maarten Van Horenbeeck <maarten at first.org<mailto:maarten at first.org>>,
> Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com<mailto:wisdom.dk at gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: changing the title of BPF AI, IOT, Big Data
>
>
> Dear Titti and Maarten
>
>
>
>
> I have just signed up for the BPF. I believe I can make a positive
> contribution, as I have both direct engagement in a variety of the groups
> referenced but also, more importantly, contacts with various corporate and
> governmental/including IGOs that are examining these topics, as well as
> block chain for applications that affect daily life on the Internet, and
> for use by governmental agencies and development community toward how they
> can be effective in achieving the SDGs.
>
>
> First, I took note today of a proposal to change the name and I have to
> chime in that although I await being added as a member of the group, that I
> am disappointed that something like this would even take up time in a
> discussion in a new BPF.
>
>
> There is a name. There is a ToR. There is important work to do  in a short
> time if this BPF is to achieve a useful and well established initial
> report, as called for, by the time of the IGF2018.
>
>
> I consider debates about such items a diversion from agreeing on work.  My
> suggestion is that the group stick with the name that you now have and
> prioritize focus on the ToR and how to achieve meaningful discussions in
> time to have any kind of meaningful report.
>
>
> Now for why I joined the group -- I think that there is a overly
> simplistic focus on certain companies, like Facebook, Google.
>
> and the list of those to reach out to highly limited, given the breadth
> and spread of focus on AI/IOT/Big Data.
>
>
> The MAGs I was on [and current MAG] are discussing how to be more
> relevant, and how to draw in more than the "usual suspects" especially in
> the commercial sector.  Major players from companies like SAS, Accenture,
> CISCO, HSBC, the Business Roundtable, Digital Europe [representing IT and
> ICT companies across all of Europe and more are possible prospects to join
> this BPF.
>
>
> Different parts of the IGOs -- such as UNCTAD and UNESCO are also possible
> invitees, after all, the purpose of the BPFs is to not be insular to the
> MAG but to use the BPF to create a broad and more informed engagement of
> experts.
>
>
> So a specific action idea:  This might mean that the first discussion
> might be: how do we create an invitation to 30-45 actual experts, spread
> across the areas to join this BPF?   Don't assume it is closed, but
> consider how you use your calls to listen to such experts, which will need
> to include scientists, engineers, companies, academics, governmental
> reps.... IGO experts.
>
>
> You have a great opportunity to think differently about this BPF and that
> means focus immediately on the work.
>
>
> I do not support the name change. it is a diversion of the need for your
> actual very important work. BUT, as I said, I am only now joining, so it
> may be that my input comes too late.
>
>
> I hope that this BPF will focus on prioritizing work, and I hope I will be
> approved shortly to join the BPF mailing list.
>
>
> Apologies for not joining earlier.
>
> Marilyn Cade
>
> ________________________________
> From: CASSA Concettina <cassa at agid.gov.it<mailto:cassa at agid.gov.it>>
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 11:42 AM
> To: Lynn St.Amour (Lynn at Internet-Matters.org<mailto:
> Lynn at Internet-Matters.org>)
> Cc: MAG-public
> Subject: [IGFmaglist] changing the title of BPF AI, IOT, Big Data
>
> Dear Lynn,
> Dear All,
> as I referred you during the last MAG virtual meeting, there has been a
> request from one of the aiiotbd mailing list member to change the BPF's
> title from "BPF AI, IoT, Big Data"  to "BPF IoT, Big Data, AI". The
> request  has been broadly supported by the other mailing list members as it
> was felt that the amended title is more logic within the context of the IGF
> and helps to focus the scope of the BPF on issues related to the Internet
> and IG.
>
> I hope there are no objections from the other MAG members in making the
> change. Please let me know.
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Titti
>
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