[IGFmaglist] Rumors about IGF Bali

Fri Jul 26 05:58:50 EDT 2013

Dear All,

I agree with Markus and Chengetai. I also received emails from my
colleagues in the Pacific regarding these rumours but after doing my
research, I noticed that there was only one online news article quoting
the official - it's probably Indonesian whispers :)

As the old saying goes, "don't dignify a rumour with a response". 

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] On Behalf
Of Markus Kummer
Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013 9:39 PM
To: CARVELL, Mark
Cc: Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Rumors about IGF Bali

Dear Mark,

Many thanks for sharing. However, the UN has not received an official
communication of any cancellation, as Chengetai explained. An Indonesian
newspaper quoting an Indonesian official is not relevant in this
context. The official channel of communication between the UN and a
Member State is through the Permanent Mission in New York or in Geneva.
Discussions are ongoing and so far nothing has been cancelled.

Best regards
Markus 

On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:29 AM, "CARVELL, Mark"
<Mark.Carvell at Culture.gsi.gov.uk>
 wrote:

> Dear Chengetai + colleagues
> 
> This Indonesian report quotes a Ministry official yesterday as having
cancelled the IGF:
> http://inet.detik.com/read/2013/07/25/135130/2314218/328/kurang-dana-f
> orum-internet-dunia-batal-digelar-di-bali
> 
> Google translation:  
> 
> Reluctantly canceled IGF was held in Indonesia in 2013. We have
already reported to the IGF secretariat informally. They deplore, but
also could not force because the cost aspect, "said Head of Public
Relations and Information Center, Ministry of Communication and
Information Gatot S. Dewa Broto told detikINET, Thursday (07/25/2013).
> 
> Billy explained, IGF 2013 will cost around Rp 22 billion. Where from
Id-IGF organizers had collected Rp 9 billion, while the Ministry of
Communications allocates Rp 2.5 billion. So less around Rp 10.5 billion.
Had also raised additional funds through the state budget or from BP3TI
budget, but failed to materialize.
> 
> "The budget is already tight, with some nations willing to
self-finance their own capital alias. Though they as a participant
should we facilitate. But what can we do, we do not want to force it. So
with a heavy heart we have to cancel, we apologize to the Indonesian
Internet stakeholders , "Billy whispered.
> 
> Although it has been claimed was unable to host the IGF in 2013, it
was declared Indonesia informally. Government in this regard Ministry of
Communications or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs should send a letter
of inability to host the official told the UN chief.
> 
> Global Internet Governance Forum conference itself was originally
planned to be attended by about 2,500 stakeholders in the field of the
Internet over the world to discuss Internet governance is inclusive,
transparent, accountable and egalitarian. The 1,000 participants of whom
are expected to come from Indonesia.
> 
> The plan will be about 154 internet ready workshop held with topics
AZ. Start discussing about freedom of expression, regulation, internet
security, internet and other related topics.
> 
> So this is an internet forum for Indonesian diplomacy. How to
formulate governance of the Internet, because each country guarantees
the connectivity and each nation has their own interests.
> 
> This conference was related to the Declaration of the Millennium
Development Goal (MDG) No.. 555/2 of 2000 and the agreement of the World
Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) No.. 060/1/2005.
> 
> One of the important principles as the common thread is, the
development of information society in the context of poverty reduction
can be aided by information and communication technology that is based
on strong partnerships between government, private sector, civil society
organizations (civil society), and other international organizations.
> 
> UN Secretary-General, through the WSIS meeting in Tunis in 2005, has
formed a task force internet governance as the enabling condition
(enabler) to ensure multi-stakeholder participation or multi-stakeholder
can run active, open and inclusive.
> 
> In the context of domestic interests, some things that can be learned
from the implementation of the Global IGF 8th in Indonesia are as
follows:
> 
> 1. Strengthen Indonesia's position as an important axis of the global 
> Internet 2. Make Indonesia as a learning resource for the nation / 
> country 3. Indonesian community opportunities ranging global careers 
> 4. Unlock the potential of collaboration and knowledge transfer 
> between key actors 5. Encourage dialogue Internet governance that is 
> inclusive, transparent, accountable, egalitarian and diverse 
> stakeholders involved 6. Stimulate growth and domestic Internet access

> market
> 
> ------------------
> 
> Mark
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] On Behalf

> Of Vladimir Radunovic
> Sent: 26 July 2013 09:51
> To: 'Chengetai Masango'
> Cc: Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Rumors about IGF Bali
> 
> Thank you Chengetai, much appreciated.
> Sardjoeni do you have some updates from the Indonesian side?
> 
> It is important that MAG discusses and clarifies rumors about IGF
whenever these appear (esp. such important issues), and informs the
wider community about findings.
> 
> Best!
> 
> 	Vlada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chengetai Masango [mailto:cmasango at unog.ch]
> Sent: 26 July 2013 09:44
> To: Vladimir Radunovic
> Cc: Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Rumors about IGF Bali
> 
> Dear Vlada,
> 
> 
> While as a general policy I do not like commenting on rumours, I am
very aware that there have been some rumours flying around that the IGF
in Bali has been cancelled.
> 
> However, neither the IGF Secretariat nor UNDESA in New York  have
received any official notification of such.  We are in contact with the
Indonesian authorities discussing all the aspects related to hosting
2013, and we will let you know as soon as any significant development
occurs.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Chengetai
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 Jul, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Vladimir Radunovic <vladar at diplomacy.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> During ICANN Durban, there were rumors (also via Twitter from some of

>> the
>> "IGFians") that the IGF Bali will be cancelled due to impasse in 
>> budget negotiations. I was approached by number of colleagues from 
>> our community who were worried if they should go ahead with buying 
>> the tickets (to
> benefit
>> from early rates) or not, as they have heard the same rumors.
>> 
>> Since there were no updates from the IGF Sec and on this list about 
>> such
> an
>> unfortunate option, I assume those were just the rumors and we should

>> not worry. Markus, Chengetai, others involved in these negotiations 
>> on budget
> -
>> can you please confirm and update us? 
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> 	Vlada
>> 
>> 
>> 
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