[IGFmaglist] [Ext] Re: main session on AI

Adam Peake adam.peake at icann.org
Tue Aug 8 08:11:04 EDT 2023


Hi Sooki,

I think the process is getting a little complex, but the drafting is taking shape and I hope we will be able to share as a public document for each session shortly.  And I think we still have to agree on a final list of main sessions.

Important to remember the reason we, MAG, suggested to keep the discussion primarily within the MAG is it was unfinished business from our meeting in Geneva. We wanted to work a bit more before giving a starting point for discussion with stakeholders.  We also agreed to this approach on a MAG call on July 27.

Best,

Adam





From: "Dofel, Sook-Jung GIZ" <sook-jung.dofel at giz.de>
Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2023 at 08:57
To: Amrita Choudhury <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>, Вадим Глущенко <vadim.glushchenko at cgitc.ru>
Cc: MAG-public <igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>, "tkrause at digitale-chancen.de" <tkrause at digitale-chancen.de>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [IGFmaglist] main session on AI

Dear Vadim, dear all,

yes, we agreed on that.And it is of great importance that we shouldn’t concentrate on a specific region etc.

But instead of solely complaining, I would really appreciate if you or anyone else could make suggestions with regard to AI principles that have been developed by others than the few that are mentioned. It was not on purpose to put focus on European region. I just do not know any AI principles that are of this global HR based nature that have been formulated somewhere else.

So please Vadim- go ahead and name some. It would enrich our document and I would really appreciate that!

Best,
Sooki




Von: Amrita Choudhury <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. August 2023 05:36
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+1 Vadim

I agree with those sentiments and this is what a few of us had suggested earlier too.

As far as I recall the text of the session is not finalized yet, since it was agreed that  the MAG is supposed to have another call to decide if we agree to the draft of all the main sessions we are planning for.

Regards,

Amrita




On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 2:19 AM Вадим Глущенко via Igfmaglist <igfmaglist at intgovforum.org<mailto:igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>> wrote:
Dear All,
Thank you for such a great job! The MS description looks really good.

My only slight concern is about the text referring to a number of initiatives:

- "Governments, organizations, and researchers advocate these principles, with initiatives like the IEEE Global Initiative on Ethics of Autonomous and Intelligent Systems, the European Commission's Ethics Guidelines for Trustworthy AI, UNESCO’s Recommendations on the Ethics of Artificial Intelligence, the Council of Europe’s Framework Convention on Artificial Intelligence, Human Rights, Democracy and Rule of Law,  and the Principles for AI by the Future of Life Institute".

So we name an international organization (UNESCO, based in Europe),  a professional association (IEEE, HQ in the USA), two European institutions (European Commission and Council of Europe) and a non-profit organization (Future of Life Institute, HQ in the USA). With all due respect to these great initiatives, this description looks like there is little work ongoing and/or achievements on the AI ethics topic worth mentioning in other parts of the world. Which I'm sure, is not exactly the case.

To ensure fairness and equal respect to all contributions to this extremely important topic that have been made by governments, organizations and researches all over the world to date, we should either name initiatives from other regions or mention only the UNESCO's Recommendation as a document that has been unanimously supported by various Member States.
Let's not forget that we've agreed not to focus on EU perspectives (with all respect), and to include Global South in discussions.

Best regards,
Vadim





07.08.2023, 16:49, "Evelyne Tauchnitz" <evelyne.tauchnitz at graduateinstitute.ch<mailto:evelyne.tauchnitz at graduateinstitute.ch>>:
Thank you to everyone from my side, too!

As a very last minor revision, I have inserted the mentioning of UNESCO's and the Council of Europe's work on AI in the online document.

Best wishes,

Evelyne

Le lun. 7 août 2023 à 12:45, CAROL ROACH <CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs<mailto:CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs>> a écrit :
Great job everyone.



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Dofel, Sook-Jung GIZ --- AW: main session on AI ---
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"Dofel, Sook-Jung GIZ" <sook-jung.dofel at giz.de<mailto:sook-jung.dofel at giz.de>>

To:

"Amrita Choudhury" <amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com<mailto:amritachoudhury8 at gmail.com>>, "CAROL ROACH" <CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs<mailto:CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs>>, "MAG-public" <igfmaglist at intgovforum.org<mailto:igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>>

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Date:

Mon, Aug 7, 2023 6:29 AM

Subject:

AW: main session on AI

________________________________

Dear all,



Thank you all who have commented and revised the initial draft!

Please find below and also in the google doc the final outline of the main session on AI.



Kind regards,



Sooki



Main Session on “AI that We Want”



In today's world, Artificial Intelligence (AI) plays a pivotal role in transforming industries and daily life. By emulating human cognitive functions like learning, reasoning, and problem-solving, AI becomes a powerful tool driving innovation and addressing complex challenges.

To maximize AI's positive impact on society, a responsible and ethical development that is grounded in human rights is essential. This approach ensures AI is harnessed for peaceful purposes, contributing to the evolution of humanity and global cooperation, building trust, fairness, and privacy protection, while preventing unintended consequences or intended harm for human wellbeing and promoting ecological sustainability. It also maintains human control, preserves jobs, and encourages global collaboration for collective human progress.



To achieve these objectives, the development of AI standards, principles and regulations is vital. The evolving landscape of AI principles includes various standards and frameworks, addressing ethical concerns, transparency, and human rights. Governments, organizations, and researchers advocate these principles, with initiatives like the IEEE Global Initiative on Ethics of Autonomous and Intelligent Systems, the European Commission's Ethics Guidelines for Trustworthy AI, and the Principles for AI by the Future of Life Institute. Human rights can thereby serve as an ethical compass to create a robust foundation for responsible AI development and deployment.

In addition to existing ethical principles, translating them into legally binding regulations is crucial. Enforceable laws and policies ensure AI technologies are used responsibly, holding those accountable for non-compliance. Legal regulations provide a stronger framework for safeguarding rights, promoting fairness, and mitigating risks associated with AI.



The AI regulatory landscape remains dynamic, with continuous refinements and new developments taking place. Collaboration among countries and organizations on ethical AI regulations is crucial to address global challenges collectively, share best practices, and create a level playing field for AI development.

The goal of this main session is to discuss how AI could be designed, regulated and harmonized to better serve all humans while maintaining their rights, as well as to share ideas on how this can be achieved. It is necessary to assess the state of development of standards and regulations, share knowledge and best practices, and provide a platform for a multistakeholder exchange on how to develop common principles for the AI we want and ensure that we have the right institutions in place to translate them into binding standards and regulations. In addition, there is a need for global cooperation to translate scientific insights into effective policy action.



Policy questions that will be addressed during this main session:

  *   Are existing national, regional and international initiatives on AI standard setting and regulation enough, or do we need a new global framework?
  *   What would be the necessary intermediary steps to create such a global framework and build or equip the responsible organizations in charge of implementation, monitoring, oversight and compliance?
  *   How can we effectively translate scientific insights on AI’s benefits and risks for human wellbeing into effective policy action (e.g. establishment of an Intergovernmental Panel on Digital Change IPDC in analogy to the IPCC on climate change)?













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Hi All,



I  have added a shortened text version based on what Sooki and all had drafted or suggested, do have a look and comment.



Regards,



Amrita



On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 10:37 PM CAROL ROACH <CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs<mailto:CAROLROACH at bahamas.gov.bs>> wrote:

Sooki

Great. Added my comments and suggestions



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Date:


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Subject:


main session on AI


________________________________



Dear all,



please find my first draft on the outline of the main session in the word doc that we share with the other MAG members. Please feel free to make comments, changes etc by 5th August. I will finalize it then, so that we can submit it latest by 7th August.

For those of you who cannot find the link to the word doc:



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Sooki





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