[IGFmaglist] Suggested Working Groups

Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro sala at pasifikanexus.nu
Thu Apr 14 16:12:27 EDT 2016


Happy to go with what you all prefer.  Am happy either way.
On 14 Apr 2016 9:49 am, "Wisdom Donkor" <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Sala, Thanks for this well thought out email, specifically the
> working groups.
> I agree with you that time is of the essence and that we need to
> accelerate work. i am of the view that since Mexico will be the country
> going to host this years IGF, it will be good for MAG to meet in Mexico for
> the second meeting,  I believe this will give members first hand
> information about the venue, logistics, transport, etc. And as such   will
> aid members in planning.
>
> Which ever option opted for am good to go with.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> WISDOM DONKOR (S/N Eng.)
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> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <
> sala at pasifikanexus.nu> wrote:
> >
> > In the interest of time and planning. It makes perfect sense to have the
> July meeting in Geneva. Suggestions for Working Groups to accelerate work.
> It would be useful that in developing their outputs, that they
> build/include capabilities of having drafts hosted online for closed MAG
> view only to enable input of views of both Working Group members and non
> working group members. Each working group should have clear plans of action
> and deliverables where they provide a summary of recommendations to the
> Broader MAG Group. Time is of the essence so we need to accelerate work.
> >
> > Working Groups can have co-chairs to accelerate this process.
> >
> > Working Group on Criteria and Guidelines
> > Echoing Virat's call for a dedicated Working Group to review/consolidate
> criteria and guidelines drawing from work done previously. Expert resources
> such as Susan Chalmers who have aggregated reflections from 2015. With the
> view of refining these recommendations and presenting usable options to the
> rest of the MAG.
> >
> > Working Group on IGF Logistics
> >
> > The host country can take a video and send dimensions of the rooms etc
> to accelerate planning and if there are 3D capabilities we could simulate
> the room sizes. It would be good to have an awareness of how many people
> rooms can take comfortably of if extended and whether rooms are easily
> accessible for persons with disabilities. In the interest of time, it might
> be useful to have a dedicated Working Group chaired by a representative
> from the Host Country and anyone from the MAG to work on putting a detailed
> report together which could be then fed to the working Group. We could do
> this Simultaneously.
> >
> > The WG should also take into account lessons from previous IGFs.
> >
> > Working Group on Session Formats
> > It would also be useful to have a Working Group to work on session
> formats and perhaps create a Survey for MAG members by which they could
> aggregate views on formats. They could also analyse previous years' session
> formats and have statistics and attendance and commentaries synthesised and
> analysed. Summary of recommendations could also be made available to all.
> >
> > Working Group on Content and Themes
> > Given the diversity of the various strands of Internet Governance, it
> would be useful to have a synthesis and analysis and information paper on
> past years' themes and content not just our individual pet topics. This
> Working Group could draw from the various consolidated reports over the
> years and create a survey for MAG members on the sub themes etc.
> >
> > Working Group on Outreach and Social Media Strategy
> > The third meeting can be at the Host country where we can have time to
> coincide awareness etc. This will include planning for pre-IGF events for
> when the MAG is in Mexico and also publications that need to go out.
> >
> > Working Group on Remote Participation
> > There is merit in also having a dedicated working group to look at
> preparing the framework or reviewing the framework for remote participation
> and incorporating feedback into strengthening this aspect.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Sala
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a 'new' idea.
> >> I will go anywhere that the MAG meets.
> >>
> >> How about we focus on Geneva for the July meeting, and try to work on a
> special event with the Host Country at a date they choose, and while not
> all MAG would attend in person, we work on a representative  approach from
> the MAG+ the MAG Chair, the IGF Secretariat, and it be custom designed by
> the Host country, so we might go to Mexico City and do a special event with
> business, with civil society, with the technical community.  And perhaps
> then we go on to Guadalajara
> >>  for another maybe half day event or so, with the national government,
> civil society, and the innovation/high tech sector there -- which is
> vibrant and creative.
> >> OR we work toward the third meeting in Mexico, but I want to support
> the issue that it takes time to do build up of awareness, so it might be
> that there needs to be a special event [see above], at a mid year timing.
> and it might be important to do both.
> >> Finally, mostly, as the mid year session is heads down working session,
> it might not actually meet the interests of our host country, as we have to
> work into the night on workshop reviews. If history is any prelude.....
> >> M
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: RPEREZGA at minetur.es
> >> To: virginiap at diplomacy.edu; jac at apcwomen.org
> >> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:24:27 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for
> MAG members for MAG f-f meetings
> >> CC: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> >>
> >> Thanks Jac!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Madrid to Geneva: 2 hours
> >> Madrid to Guadalajara: 12 hours
> >>
> >> I am with Marilyn and Ginger here, and taking into account costs
> (including flying IGF staff to Mexico), I think we should stick with Geneva
> for the next meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best
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> >> De: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] En nombre
> de Ginger Paque
> >> Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de abril de 2016 18:04
> >> Para: Jac sm Kee
> >> CC: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> >> Asunto: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for
> MAG members for MAG f-f meetings
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Nice calculator, Jac, thanks!
> >>
> >> 9 hours to Geneva for me,
> >>
> >> 4 hours to Guadalajara or Mexico City.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have to admit, if we don't go to Guadalajara to see the venue, I
> don't see the advantage to Mexico, though, although it's probably cheaper.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers, Ginger
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ginger (Virginia) Paque
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> >> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Jac sm Kee <jac at apcwomen.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Malaysia to Geneva: 13 hours
> >> Malaysia to Mexico: 22 hours
> >>
> >> And here's a handy tool in case anyone else wld like to do quick
> checking:
> >> http://www.travelmath.com/flights/
> >>
> >> j
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------
> >> Jac sm Kee
> >> Manager, Women's Rights Programme
> >> Association for Progressive Communications
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> >>
> >> On 06/04/2016 23:42, Marilyn Cade wrote:
> >> > Exactly what would be helpful for future...
> >> >
> >> > IF you know the time for each, just post and I'll gather them into a
> >> > spreadsheet tonight.
> >> >
> >> > I am going to discuss this NOW in the room.
> >> >
> >> > We need to see the snapshot more broadly, and if some of you from
> LATAM
> >> > can fill in examples, this is very helpful.
> >> > IZUMI might also contribute travel time from Japan to each.
> >> >
> >> > From US/NY, or Washington, it is only a few hours to Mexico and
> usually
> >> > 7-10 to Geneva.
> >> >
> >> > However, costs are often higher to travel to Mexico from some of the
> >> > regions, and this also has to be considered, as we would also have to
> >> > fly all the IGF staff to Mexico so would have to factor that in.
> >> >
> >> > For now, if facilities are available in July, let's meet in Geneva and
> >> > then we can debate the practicalities of other locations for the MAG
> >> > September meeting.
> >> >
> >> > M
> >> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > From: miestrada at gmail.com
> >> > Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 17:25:06 +0200
> >> > Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for
> >> > MAG members for MAG f-f meetings
> >> > To: marilynscade at hotmail.com
> >> > CC: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
> >> >
> >> > Marilyn, please allow me to add Argentina and ask other LAC members to
> >> > add their countries to your list:
> >> >
> >> > Argentina to GVA - 16 to 18hs
> >> > Argentina to Mexico - 10hs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > __
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Marilyn Cade <
> marilynscade at hotmail.com
> >> > <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >     *TRAVEL Times as compared from certain cities to Geneva and same
> >> >     cities to Mexico:*
> >>
> >> >
> >> >     I compared travel times from some countries to Mexico and from the
> >> >     same countries to Geneva.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >     For New Zealand and Australia, it is approximately the same number
> >> >     of hours to both Geneva and to Mexico [a few others are in that as
> >> >     well, such as Fiji, ...  -- expect they travel 30 or 33 or even up
> >> >     to 41 hours to GVA similar hours ]
> >> >
> >> >     Addis to Mexico            29 hours or 32.5 hours or 39 hours
> >> >
> >> >     Addis to Geneva            10 or 12  hours
> >> >     ------------------------------------------------
> >> >     Naroibi, Kenya    to Mexico         33 or 30 or 31 hours
> >> >
> >> >     -------------------------------------------------
> >> >     Geneva to Mexico               21 or 22 or  23 or  18  hours
> >> >
> >> >     ===========================================
> >> >     Egypt to Geneva                 9 or 13 hours
> >> >
> >> >     Egypt to Mexico                 24 or 27 hours
> >> >
> >> >     ======================================
> >> >     Paris to Mexico                  20 or 21 or 22 hours
> >> >     Paris to Geneva                 2-3 hours
> >> >     ======================================
> >> >     Fiji to Mexico                    33.5 hours
> >> >     Fiji to GVA                         pretty similar
> >> >     =======================================
> >> >     Afganistan to GVA            11 hour, more or less
> >> >     Afganistan to Mexico       22 or more.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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