[IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for MAG members for MAG f-f meetings

Thu Apr 14 07:54:32 EDT 2016

I have a 'new' idea.
I will go anywhere that the MAG meets.

How about we focus on Geneva for the July meeting, and try to work on a special event with the Host Country at a date they choose, and while not all MAG would attend in person, we work on a representative  approach from the MAG+ the MAG Chair, the IGF Secretariat, and it be custom designed by the Host country, so we might go to Mexico City and do a special event with business, with civil society, with the technical community.  And perhaps then we go on to Guadalajara for another maybe half day event or so, with the national government, civil society, and the innovation/high tech sector there -- which is vibrant and creative. 
OR we work toward the third meeting in Mexico, but I want to support the issue that it takes time to do build up of awareness, so it might be that there needs to be a special event [see above], at a mid year timing. and it might be important to do both. 
Finally, mostly, as the mid year session is heads down working session, it might not actually meet the interests of our host country, as we have to work into the night on workshop reviews. If history is any prelude.....
M

From: RPEREZGA at minetur.es
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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:24:27 +0000
Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for MAG members for MAG f-f meetings
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Thanks Jac!

Madrid to Geneva: 2 hours

Madrid to Guadalajara: 12 hours

I am with Marilyn and Ginger here, and taking into account costs (including flying IGF staff to Mexico), I think we should stick with Geneva for
 the next meeting.

Best

Rafael

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De: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org]
En nombre de Ginger Paque

Enviado el: miércoles, 13 de abril de 2016 18:04

Para: Jac sm Kee

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Asunto: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for MAG members for MAG f-f meetings

Nice calculator, Jac, thanks!

9 hours to Geneva for me,

4 hours to Guadalajara or Mexico City.

I have to admit, if we don't go to Guadalajara to see the venue, I don't see the advantage to Mexico, though, although it's probably cheaper.

Cheers, Ginger

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Jac sm Kee <jac at apcwomen.org> wrote:
Malaysia to Geneva: 13 hours

Malaysia to Mexico: 22 hours

And here's a handy tool in case anyone else wld like to do quick checking:

http://www.travelmath.com/flights/

j

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On 06/04/2016 23:42, Marilyn Cade wrote:

> Exactly what would be helpful for future...

>

> IF you know the time for each, just post and I'll gather them into a

> spreadsheet tonight.

>

> I am going to discuss this NOW in the room.

>

> We need to see the snapshot more broadly, and if some of you from LATAM

> can fill in examples, this is very helpful.

> IZUMI might also contribute travel time from Japan to each.

>

> From US/NY, or Washington, it is only a few hours to Mexico and usually

> 7-10 to Geneva.

>

> However, costs are often higher to travel to Mexico from some of the

> regions, and this also has to be considered, as we would also have to

> fly all the IGF staff to Mexico so would have to factor that in.

>

> For now, if facilities are available in July, let's meet in Geneva and

> then we can debate the practicalities of other locations for the MAG

> September meeting.

>

> M

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> From: miestrada at gmail.com

> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2016 17:25:06 +0200

> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Comparison of the travel time challenges for

> MAG members for MAG f-f meetings

> To: marilynscade at hotmail.com

> CC: igfmaglist at intgovforum.org

>

> Marilyn, please allow me to add Argentina and ask other LAC members to

> add their countries to your list:

>

> Argentina to GVA - 16 to 18hs

> Argentina to Mexico - 10hs

>

>

> Thanks!

>

> __

>

> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com

> <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>> wrote:

>

>     *TRAVEL Times as compared from certain cities to Geneva and same

>     cities to Mexico:*

>

>     I compared travel times from some countries to Mexico and from the

>     same countries to Geneva.

>

>

>     For New Zealand and Australia, it is approximately the same number

>     of hours to both Geneva and to Mexico [a few others are in that as

>     well, such as Fiji, ...  -- expect they travel 30 or 33 or even up

>     to 41 hours to GVA similar hours ]

>

>     Addis to Mexico            29 hours or 32.5 hours or 39 hours

>

>     Addis to Geneva            10 or 12  hours

>     ------------------------------------------------

>     Naroibi, Kenya    to Mexico         33 or 30 or 31 hours

>

>     -------------------------------------------------

>     Geneva to Mexico               21 or 22 or  23 or  18  hours

>

>     ===========================================

>     Egypt to Geneva                 9 or 13 hours

>

>     Egypt to Mexico                 24 or 27 hours

>

>     ======================================

>     Paris to Mexico                  20 or 21 or 22 hours

>     Paris to Geneva                 2-3 hours

>     ======================================

>     Fiji to Mexico                    33.5 hours

>     Fiji to GVA                         pretty similar

>     =======================================

>     Afganistan to GVA            11 hour, more or less

>     Afganistan to Mexico       22 or more.....

>

>

>

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