[DC] DC Digest, Vol 119, Issue 33

Amrith ak.amrithk at gmail.com
Fri Feb 28 22:41:40 EST 2025 

Dear IGF Secretariat and Colleagues,

I hope this email finds you well.

As we continue scheduling and planning for our upcoming *DCCG Meeting #96*,
I would like to revisit an important point from my previous
discussions—access to *updated data and documentation* on DCCG meeting
participants from 2024 to the present. Currently, this information is
either outdated or unavailable on the UN website (or otherwise difficult to
access/navigate), which presents challenges in our analyses. Specifically,
I am looking for data on:

   - *Participant affiliations* with Dynamic Coalitions (DCs) or
   organizations
   - *Geographical distribution* of attendees (*time zone*)
   - *Attendance trends* over time

This data is crucial for our ongoing study on *DCCG **meeting timings and
their impact* *across different regions and members*, as well as
potentially being beneficial for analyzing future participation
trends—particularly in relation to our newly implemented *gamification
leaderboard* (special thanks to Reyansh and DC-G4P). The benefits of
maintaining updated data/documentation are not limited to those mentioned
above...

Over the past week, I have begun documenting this information in the
following spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwSl4dl0DLqHGap_KLV19nsHpIDzcI8r79ELzEPgppE/edit?usp=sharing

This marks the first attempt at compiling all relevant data into a *single
reference point*. While the dataset is still in its early stages/iteration
and the formatting requires refinement, I believe it can serve as a
valuable starting point. To enhance its accuracy and completeness, I
would *greatly
appreciate any input, clarifications, or additional data* you can provide.

Additionally, I would like to request a *slot in our upcoming DCCG meeting*
to discuss:

   - How we can further enhance this dataset
   - Its relevance to both our ongoing study on meeting timings and our
   broader discussions on *gamification and participation trends*
   - Strategies for ensuring *up-to-date and well-documented records*
   moving forward

Thank you all for your support, and special thanks to Wout for your advice
in our last discussion. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and
hopefully discussing this further in our next meeting.

*Regards,*
Amrith Kumar
DTC Board
https://linktr.ee/dtcigf

On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 8:44 PM Amrith <ak.amrithk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear IGF Secretariat and Colleagues,
>
> I hope this email finds you well. Some of you may have seen me earlier
> today at the DCCG meeting, along with other members of our coalition.
> However, I wanted to take a moment to formally introduce myself.
>
> My name is Amrith Kumar, and I am a new Board Member at DTC. My work
> revolves around emerging technologies, particularly AI and Quantum
> computing, and their intersection with policy. I am currently engaged in
> research at the Goldman School of Public Policy at UC Berkeley & the
> Computer Science Department at Columbia University, collaborating with
> professors, and also working on developing a platform to provide free,
> accessible, high-quality AI education for learners of all ages.
> Additionally, I have a background in debate and enjoy structured
> discussions on complex topics—always happy to take on a challenge if you
> are up to it.
>
> Above all, I consider myself a teacher. Over the past four years, I have
> taught language classes and coding to students ranging from elementary
> school children to professionals in the job market looking to gain insights
> on learning new skill sets. This experience has reinforced my belief that
> learning is a two-way process and has little to do with age by any means;
> in fact, some of my greatest insights have come from my youngest students
> and the lessons they taught me.
>
> Now, to the matter at hand: Due to previous, repeated concerns raised by
> our coalition, DTC, regarding the timing of DCCG meetings and the potential
> disadvantages faced by individuals in certain regions, we are currently
> gathering data on the geographical distribution of DCCG meeting attendees.
> Our goal is to analyze the impact of current scheduling on participation
> across different time zones.
>
> To this end, we would greatly appreciate any guidance on where or how we
> might access relevant information on member locations. The UN website does
> not appear to provide up-to-date details on this, so any insights or
> alternative sources would be immensely helpful.
>
> Looking forward to your response and to further engaging with all of you.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Amrith Kumar
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 7:22 PM <dc-request at intgovforum.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Doodle poll for the next DCCG Meeting #95 (Catherine Page)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 22:21:09 -0500
>> From: Catherine Page <catherineann.page at gmail.com>
>> To: Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> Cc: Dynamic Teen Coalition <dynamicteencoalition at gmail.com>, Pyrate
>>         <pyrateruby at gmail.com>, dc <dc at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [DC] Doodle poll for the next DCCG Meeting #95
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>> Thank you for your reply!
>>
>> Upon looking at the DCCG Meeting chart the most recent meeting that has
>> been published is 12 February. There typically is a few weeks to a month
>> delay in publishing. Would it be possible to obtain the transcripts in
>> advance?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Catherine Page
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 10:10?PM Judith Hellerstein <
>> judith at jhellerstein.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all
>> > If you go to the dccg?s web page , igf website, inter sessional work,
>> > dynamic coalition and go to the coordinating group you can find the
>> > transcripts and summaries of each call
>> >
>> > Judith
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Feb 20, 2025, at 9:53?PM, Catherine Page <
>> catherineann.page at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > ?
>> > Dear Colleagues,
>> >
>> > I hope you?re doing well. I wanted to take a moment to formally
>> introduce
>> > myself again and express my continued dedication to internet governance
>> and
>> > youth involvement in digital cooperation spaces.
>> >
>> > As a youth leader deeply engaged in AI policy, digital literacy, and
>> > bridging the digital divide, I have had the privilege of working within
>> the
>> > UN ecosystem to address critical challenges in technology and equity.
>> > Through my work with the United Nations Association, I have advocated
>> for
>> > gender equity in STEM and digital governance, collaborated with global
>> > leaders to develop youth-focused AI policies, and served as a co-chair
>> of
>> > the first-ever Teen Board at the UN, ensuring that young voices are
>> > actively contributing to decision-making processes. My commitment to
>> these
>> > initiatives has been recognized by the White House Gender Policy Council
>> > ('23), and I remain deeply invested in fostering meaningful
>> > intergenerational collaboration in digital spaces.
>> >
>> > However, recent events within the DC planning meetings have raised
>> > concerns about how teens, particularly those in different time zones,
>> are
>> > being equitably included in discussions. It has become evident that
>> > scheduling and engagement strategies are being shaped without fully
>> > considering the diverse geographical distribution and educational
>> > commitments of young participants. As students, we are dedicated to this
>> > work, but we must balance our education alongside our advocacy.
>> Dismissing
>> > teen concerns or implying that participation is contingent upon
>> > unreasonable time commitments risks alienating the very voices that
>> > initiatives like these seek to uplift.
>> >
>> > It is essential that we recognize teen involvement not as an
>> afterthought
>> > but as a vital component of intergenerational collaboration. The goal is
>> > not simply to demand a seat at the table but to create a structure where
>> > teen?s can actively contribute in a way that acknowledges the realities
>> of
>> > our commitments. I would love to discuss potential solutions, including
>> > data-driven approaches to scheduling that prioritize accessibility and
>> > participation equity. Additionally, if transcripts from the most recent
>> > meeting are available, I would greatly appreciate the opportunity to
>> review
>> > them so that we can further understand the decision-making process.
>> >
>> > I look forward to working together toward a more inclusive and effective
>> > system for teen participation. Please let me know if there is a time we
>> > could discuss this further.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Catherine "Cassie" Page
>> > LinkedIn Profile <https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-page-92b956259>
>> > (703)300-2166
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 8:31?PM Dynamic Teen Coalition <
>> > dynamicteencoalition at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Friends:
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Roberto for the gentle reminder.
>> >>
>> >> Unfortunately, I need to take this point further. I am unaware of any
>> >> news from the call that changes this issue--please correct me if I'm
>> wrong.
>> >>
>> >> The ongoing, existing concern is known structural inequality that
>> >> directly prevents DC participation. I foresee me having to bring this
>> up at
>> >> the next meeting, so let's tackle it now.
>> >>
>> >> In 2025, as we held an open process of participation for DTC Board
>> >> selection, we have mostly selected North Americans who attend high
>> school
>> >> during the usual meeting hours. We will still be unable to send Board
>> >> participants most of the time.
>> >>
>> >> Nobody else can speak for us.
>> >>
>> >> After reviewing again the meeting schedule sent previously in relation
>> to
>> >> the Americas, nearly all sessions fall during standard U.S. high school
>> >> hours (typically 8:00 AM ? 3:30 PM local time). Here?s a breakdown of
>> how
>> >> these meetings align with school schedules across U.S. time zones:
>> >>
>> >> Pacific Time (PT): 2:00 AM ? 8:30 AM
>> >>
>> >> Eastern Time (ET): 5:00 AM ? 11:30 AM
>> >>
>> >> Central Time (CT): 4:00 AM ? 10:30 AM
>> >>
>> >> Mountain Time (MT): 3:00 AM ? 9:30 AM
>> >>
>> >> Because of this, it is nearly impossible for us to send teen
>> >> representatives to participate in these meetings. Since our Board
>> includes
>> >> only two members outside North America and Australia (one in India and
>> one
>> >> in the UK), this scheduling issue effectively excludes our teenage
>> Board
>> >> members (quite specifically our Board) from engaging in critical
>> >> discussions. Nobody else can speak for us.
>> >>
>> >> My apologies to be the one to call this out for what it is, but there
>> are
>> >> humans affected by these choices:
>> >> https://youtu.be/JVqlfinA6jk?si=ZbubUDd25cwWyV0A
>> >>
>> >> Warm Regards,
>> >> Stacy Gildenston
>> >> DTC Co-Chair
>> >>
>> >> https://linktr.ee/dtcigf
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025, 2:38?AM Roberto Gaetano <
>> >> roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi all
>> >>>
>> >>> If I understand correctly, joining the platform is not limited to the
>> >>> official DC representative, but more members of the same DC can join.
>> >>> Is this correct?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>> Roberto
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 18.02.2025, at 09:06, Reyansh Gupta <reyansh at opengrowth.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> ?Hello Stacy,
>> >>>
>> >>> Happy to see DTC growing! I?m sure you?re doing great work. For me,
>> it?s
>> >>> been a great experience learning from other DCs. I read your email and
>> >>> wanted to respond to your concern regarding gamifying participation.
>> The
>> >>> gamification process is simply meant to track and capture our
>> activities.
>> >>>
>> >>> We?ve had detailed discussions about this, and we?re currently in the
>> >>> beta phase to test its capabilities. One of the key responsibilities
>> we
>> >>> discussed as DC Coordinators/Chairs is participating in the DCCG
>> calls.
>> >>> While time zone differences can be challenging ? being in India, I?m
>> also
>> >>> familiar with late-night calls ? we?ve implemented rotating time
>> zones, as
>> >>> Markus mentioned, to help balance this.
>> >>>
>> >>> The idea behind gamifying is to measure engagement for our DCs and
>> >>> encourage us to seek creative alternatives as leaders of global
>> >>> communities. Based on your input, we could consider awarding extra
>> points
>> >>> for DC representatives who join outside regular working hours. For
>> now,
>> >>> however, we've agreed to move forward with the point-based scoring
>> system.
>> >>>
>> >>> With that in mind, I?d like to request every DC Chair/representative
>> to
>> >>> join the platform at game.gamingforpurpose.com. We?ll officially
>> start
>> >>> the scoring system on March 1st, and if a DC representative isn?t
>> >>> registered, their DC will miss out on points for both past and
>> upcoming
>> >>> meetings. Thanks again for coordinating, and please feel free to
>> reach out
>> >>> if you have any questions about the platform or the process.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks and Best Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> *Reyansh Gupta*
>> >>>
>> >>> Global Chair & Co-ordinator, Dynamic Coalition on Gaming for Purpose (
>> >>> DC-G4P
>> >>> <
>> https://intgovforum.org/en/content/dynamic-coalition-on-gaming-for-purpose-dc-g4p
>> >
>> >>> )
>> >>>
>> >>> E : reyansh at opengrowth.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 16:58 Dynamic Teen Coalition <
>> >>> dynamicteencoalition at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Markus,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great to hear from you.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We have two Co-Chairs in Australia and one in the USA (EST) but as we
>> >>>> have previously informed the Secretariat, she is 18 and still in high
>> >>>> school, therefore in class during many EU friendly times.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We will have send a brand new DTC Board Member, she's 14. She
>> attended
>> >>>> the DC meeting this week, so we know she's capable to attend if she's
>> >>>> available.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Ongoing, I foresee this scenario to be a constant problem for DTC and
>> >>>> the AU.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Questions, am I misunderstanding:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Are these new attendance points legitimately able to affect our
>> >>>> viability as a DC?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. How will they be applied to DTC if we are damaged by the system
>> >>>> because we are living in Australia?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's constantly like this, we attend at midnight often later. That's
>> >>>> why you generally see other people at the DC  meetings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Glossing over DC concerns about the reality of attending would be
>> >>>> shortsighted, if not worse.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Assuming these points are real and not hypothetical, we would need to
>> >>>> send a more formal, written complaint to be placed at such an
>> incredible
>> >>>> disadvantage due to location, not willingness.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> My apologies that's the case. As nothing we do at DTC is ever handed
>> to
>> >>>> us nor easy, we are now at the stage of pushing back. We must.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Reyansh we love the idea. It needs a fairer system in place before
>> >>>> being operational.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warm Regards,
>> >>>> Stacy Gildenston
>> >>>> DTC Co-Chair
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://linktr.ee/dtcigf
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2025, 7:12?PM Markus Kummer <kummer.markus at gmail.com
>> >
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hello Stacy,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Time zones are a challenge - this is why we are rotating the meeting
>> >>>>> slots. Surely not all your members are in the same time zone. Can
>> you not
>> >>>>> designate a member who lives in a different time zone to represent
>> your DC?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Best regards
>> >>>>> Markus
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On 14 Feb 2025, at 06:46, Dynamic Teen Coalition <
>> >>>>> dynamicteencoalition at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hello All:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> We will be challenged as DTC Co-Chairs to participate in DC
>> meetings,
>> >>>>> and have concerns about meetings being scheduled so that our
>> Co-Chairs
>> >>>>> cannot attend regularly.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> This meeting is between 2-4 AM AEST (Australia). Catherine (our NA
>> >>>>> Co-Chair) is also in class.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The situation to gamify points to the meetings is a great
>> initiative,
>> >>>>> but unfortunately not logical under these circumstances. I cannot
>> imagine
>> >>>>> we are the only DC with similar issues. We absolutely appreciate
>> Reyansh,
>> >>>>> but we need to sort this out before placing it as any sort of formal
>> >>>>> assessment of DC capabilities. It's concerning.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Please let us know how to proceed in equity.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Warm Regards,
>> >>>>> Stacy Gildenston
>> >>>>> DTC Co-Chair
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://linktr.ee/dtcigf
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2025, 6:09?PM Roman Chukov via DC <
>> dc at intgovforum.org>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Dear all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> As discussed during the call we plan to have the next DCCG Meeting
>> >>>>>> already next week.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Kindly take this Doodle poll by tomorrow, 14 February, COB:
>> >>>>>> https://doodle.com/group-poll/participate/eVoxRMXa
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>> >>>>>> Roman
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> *Dr. Roman Chukov*
>> >>>>>> Programme Management Officer, Internet Governance Forum Secretariat
>> >>>>>> Division for Public Institutions and Digital Government
>> >>>>>> UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs
>> >>>>>> T: +41 76 726 3739 <+41767263739>
>> >>>>>> roman.chukov at un.org
>> >>>>>> *United Nations*
>> >>>>>> Villa Le Bocage | Room VB-15 | Palais des Nations | 1211 Geneva 10,
>> >>>>>> Switzerland
>> >>>>>> https://www.intgovforum.org
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