[DC] [DCAD] DCs input re new IGF website: Meeting today (22 March)

Tue Mar 23 04:23:13 EDT 2021

Dear Sivasubramanian,

Thank you very much for your input.

Yes, during next months along the project, there will be testable partial deliveries for additional inputs, suggestions and possible amendments.  And the links migration and management for accuracy is part of the project - it will be covered.

Best regards,
Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: sivasubramanian muthusamy <6.internet at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, 22 March 2021 11:59 PM
To: Andrea Saks <andrea at andreasaks.onmicrosoft.com>
Cc: Andy Heath <andyheath at axelafa.com>; dc at intgovforum.org; Chengetai Masango <chengetai.masango at un.org>; Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability <dcad at lists.igf-dcad.org>
Subject: Re: [DC] [DCAD] DCs input re new IGF website: Meeting today (22 March)

Apologies. I missed this meeting.  Is there a link to the new Website in progress, for comments?  It is good to see what Luis said " the very beginning of the project, the company is already working with the W3C standards".  Is there a private space for the DCs to see the website-in-progress?

Also, on a few occasions when the IGF made changes to the websites, the format for storing and retrieving pages / links was probably changed, for e.g  (NOT actual examples) intgovforum.org/events/igf2009/workshops/title_of_the_workshop.html
to intgovforum.org/archives/2009/workshop1001.html  --- such changes happen when the underlying directory structure is streamlined or the automatic file naming format is changed.  I have noticed that several links to earlier archives are now broken. If this indeed has happened in the past -- during migration or upgrade or any transition --  the process of building a new website may please take into account how changes reflect to the links to past archives, as the original links were probably published by workshop organisers or participants in blogs / social networks which also needs to continue working with some form of backward compatibility (this is not the technical term associated with change of file formats, but the idea conveyed here is that the old links in the old format also needs to work when the directory structure and file naming conventions are changed)

Thank you.

Sivasubramanian M

On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 2:02 AM Andrea Saks <andrea at andreasaks.onmicrosoft.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Andy,
>
> I was late to the meeting due to some techincal craziness.
> Do you remember the name of the document?
>
> Andrea
>
>
> From her iPhone!
>
> Andrea J Saks
> International Telecommunications Specialist for the Deaf Chairman ITU 
> JCA-AHF (Joint Coordinating Activity on Accessibility and Human 
> Factors) JCA-AHF Representative to  IGF DCAD  (Dynamic Coalition  on 
> Accessibility and Disability)
>
> Tel +44 1242 820 800<tel:+44%201242%20820%20800> voice Tel +44 1241 
> 820 623<tel:+44%201241%20820%20623> text Fax +44 1242 821 
> 171<tel:+44%201242%20821%20171> mobile + 44 7956 
> 222916<tel:+%2044%207956%20222916>(UK) always available with voice 
> mail and SMS mobile + 41 7930 46152<tel:+%2041%207930%2046152>(CH) 
> only when in Switzerland and  no voice mail Cell +1 425 233 5308 only when in USA but SMS globally.
> emailandrea at andreasaks.onmicrosoft.com<mailto:asaks at waitrose.com> and 
> andrea.saks at ties.itu.int<mailto:andrea.saks at ties.itu.int>
>
>
>
> On Mar 22, 2021, at 8:25 PM, Andy Heath <andyheath at axelafa.com> wrote:
>
> I attended the DC meeting (because I can see a time in the future when such could be important for supporting specific accessibility agendas - but of course I am still very much learning how these levels work).  However, I couldn't find the document they were discussing - the 2020 docs are on the web but not the 2021 draft that was under discussion. Do I need to join DC to see that stuff ?
>
> andy
>
> On 22/03/2021 20:17, Andrea Saks wrote:
> Well expressed Peter!
> Added Markus and Chengetai and the DCAD list as not everybody is on both the DC list and the DCAD list.
> All the best
> Andrea
> From her iPhone!
> *Andrea J Saks*
> International Telecommunications Specialist for the Deaf Chairman ITU 
> JCA-AHF (Joint Coordinating Activity on Accessibility and Human 
> Factors) JCA-AHF Representative to  IGF DCAD  (Dynamic Coalition  on 
> Accessibility and Disability) Tel +44 1242 820 800 
> <tel:+44%201242%20820%20800> voice Tel +44 1241 820 623 
> <tel:+44%201241%20820%20623> text Fax +44 1242 821 171 
> <tel:+44%201242%20821%20171> mobile + 44 7956 222916 
> <tel:+%2044%207956%20222916>(UK) always available with voice mail and 
> SMS mobile + 41 7930 46152 <tel:+%2041%207930%2046152>(CH) only when 
> in Switzerland and  no voice mail Cell +1 425 233 5308 only when in USA but SMS globally.
> emailandrea at andreasaks.onmicrosoft.com <mailto:asaks at waitrose.com> and 
> andrea.saks at ties.itu.int <mailto:andrea.saks at ties.itu.int> On 22 Mar 2021, at 14:32, petercrosbie <peterlcrosbie at gmail.com <mailto:peterlcrosbie at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Luis and all,
>
> Thanks for the meeting today, hopefully useful for all concerned. In response to some of that discussion, I’d just include this link:
>
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Accessibility_testing#When_should_testing_be_d
> one.3F 
> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Accessibility_testing#When_should_testing_be_
> done.3F> 
> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Accessibility_testing#When_should_testing_be_
> done.3F 
> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Accessibility_testing#When_should_testing_be_
> done.3F>>
>
> and specifically in regards to accessibiity:
>
> When should testing be done?
> “Test early, test often” is an old software engineering saying. Tacking on testing at the end of the development process has two risks:
>
> Projects tend to run over-time and over-budget. Testing is often rushed, omitted, or ignored thanks to such pressures.
> It is more work to fix problems discovered late in a process than to do things right from the start.
> So to ensure quality and save time and money, accessibility evaluations should start right at the beginning of product design and be included in subsequent development iterations through to final delivery.
>
> In short, the only way to ensure good accessibility for the disabled community - and all those outside of it who would benefit - is to have representatives from these communities implicated from the beginning.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter Crosbie
> DCAD
>
>
> On 22 Mar 2021, at 09:14, Sorina Teleanu <teleanusorina at gmail.com <mailto:teleanusorina at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> This is a kind reminder about the meeting on the new IGF website, 
> taking place today (22 March), from 13:00 UTC. Please see the details below.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sorina
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2021 at 8:59 PM Sorina Teleanu <teleanusorina at gmail.com 
> <mailto:teleanusorina at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Dear everyone,
>
> Many thanks to those who have indicated their availability to join a 
> meeting on the new IGF website. Based on the Doodle poll, the meeting 
> has been set up for *Monday, 22 March, 13:00 UTC*. Please find below 
> and attached the Zoom details and also a draft agenda.
>
> DCs input re new IGF website
>
> Monday, Mar 22, 2021
>
> 13:00 |  UTC  |  1 hr
>
> Join online: https://intgovforum.zoom.us/j/92728968378 
> <https://intgovforum.zoom.us/j/92728968378>
>
>
> Draft agenda
>
>  - Introduction of the Company and the Project (5 Min)
>  - Introduction of the target group (5 Min)
>  - Inputs and discussion:  considerations and improvement (40 min)
>  - AOB (10 min)
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sorina and Luis
>
>
>
>
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