[DC-Interplanetary] Webinar and other things

Scott Pace space1 at email.gwu.edu
Wed Jun 4 01:29:48 EDT 2025


Yep. I had two different points I wanted to talk to. Thanks!

Scott

金子洋介 wrote on 6/4/25 12:37 AM:
>
> Hi Scott, thanks so much for supporting the upcoming IPNSIG space summit.
>
> I'm sure your high-level perspective on governance issues will add 
> great value and help frame the discussion for a broad audience.
>
> On page 4, there seems to be two Red arrows.  Just checking to see if 
> that was intended?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kaneko
>
>> On Jun 3, 2025, at 16:41, Scott Pace <space1 at email.gwu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> FYI - I'm recording a 30 min talk this week for the IPNSIG space 
>> summit in July. It's *very* high level and doesn't go into technical 
>> detail, but hopefully enough to give feel for governance issues.
>>
>> Charts attached and comments welcome.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> 金子洋介 wrote on 6/3/25 1:39 PM:
>>> I would suggest the last sentence to read:
>>>
>>>     The Interplanetary Internet is based on Delay- and
>>>     Fault-Tolerant Networking protocols, and while there are
>>>     existing multinational mechanisms building on the Outer Space
>>>     Treaty to govern space activities, the importance of a
>>>     multistakeholder approach will be discussed to ensure the
>>>     long-term sustainability of critical infrastructure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kaneko
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 9:51 Roberto Gaetano 
>>> <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Maybe Samo can attend the webinar?
>>>
>>>     In the meantime, I have taken the liberty to add the following
>>>     sentence to the session proposal. I know it has not been
>>>     discussed, and it might even be factually incorrect, but I would
>>>     like to add a starting point that can be later amended rather
>>>     than stay silent.
>>>
>>>     The Dynamic Coalition on the Interplanetary Internet
>>>     (DC-Interplanetary) will present the case for using the
>>>     Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance model, with specific
>>>     reference to the NETmundial+10 Multi-Stakeholder Statement
>>>     “*Strengthening Internet governance and digital policy
>>>     processes*”, for the development of an Internet Governance model
>>>     for interplanetary communication.The Interplanetary Internet is
>>>     based on Delay- and Fault-tolerant protocols, and there is
>>>     currently no adopted governance model for further development
>>>     and deployment.
>>>
>>>     Comments? Suggestions? Corrections?
>>>
>>>     Cheers,
>>>     Roberto
>>>
>>>>     On 03.06.2025, at 13:29, 金子洋介 <kaneko8795003 at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:kaneko8795003 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks Roberto
>>>>
>>>>     Next week, I will be in Tokyo for Interop -  I already have a
>>>>     panel/socializing event to attend on June 11 (basically
>>>>     occupied for the whole day)
>>>>
>>>>     Is there anyone else who can participate from our DC?
>>>>
>>>>     Kaneko
>>>>
>>>>>     On Jun 2, 2025, at 19:14, Roberto Gaetano
>>>>>     <roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com
>>>>>     <mailto:roberto_gaetano at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>>     as anticipated in the previous message, here is the status of
>>>>>     the IGF 2025 preparation, including the planned Cluster 4 webinar.
>>>>>
>>>>>     There has been a debate about the webinar. One DCCG member,
>>>>>     Prof. Rajendra Pratap Gupta, had presented an outline for the
>>>>>     webinar with the title “Responsibility in the Age of
>>>>>     Internet”. I will forward the proposal in a separate message.
>>>>>     Some members, including myself, observed that the objective of
>>>>>     the Cluster 4 was the future of Internet Governance, and that
>>>>>     a key part of the discussion was the extension of the
>>>>>     Multi-Stakeholder Internet Governance model to other
>>>>>     realities, which the proposed webinar was completely missing.
>>>>>
>>>>>     A discussion went on for days, until the coordinators - Jutta
>>>>>     Croll and Markus Kummer - decided that the scope must be
>>>>>     extended to new fields, including Interplanetary Networks, as
>>>>>     we asked.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Then a discussion started about dates. It seemed that the date
>>>>>     was going to be in this week, 5 or 6 June, but then today the
>>>>>     IGF Staff person - Roman Chukov - made this proposal:
>>>>>
>>>>>         /Dear all, as there was no consensus, I would suggest to
>>>>>         postpone our 4th webinar to 11 June 14:00 UTC (15:00 CET)./
>>>>>         /And would kindly ask @⁨~Dr.Rajendra⁩ to take a lead on
>>>>>         that🙏/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     The problem is that next week - 9 to 12 June - the ICANN83
>>>>>     conference will take place, and therefore most of the ICANN
>>>>>     people, including Avri Doria, Judith Hellerstein, Olivier
>>>>>     Crepin-Leblond, etc., all supporters of our proposal, will be
>>>>>     absent. BTW, I will also be unable to join, as I am also
>>>>>     heavily involved in ICANN83.
>>>>>
>>>>>     So, the state of the art is that the webinar will be held
>>>>>     Wednesday 11 June at 14:00 UTC. Since most of the supporters
>>>>>     of the idea of discussing the application of the model to new
>>>>>     realities will be absent, I assume that the topic will be the
>>>>>     one initially proposed by Rajendra - as he will be also the
>>>>>     organiser.
>>>>>
>>>>>     A separate issue will be the Cluster 4 session in Lillestrøm.
>>>>>     It is not completely clear to me when this will take place,
>>>>>     because this is also linked to the availability of the people
>>>>>     belonging to the different clusters, but will be formalised soon.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The question is now whether the layout of the Cluster 4
>>>>>     session will be aligned with the webinar, which I believe will
>>>>>     be the option pushed by some, or not. In any case, there is an
>>>>>     open document for the preparation of the session - see
>>>>>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/12lJ3gEaf8G6pYfc0O1rJcHoAS2IjVcYVdtzUfJj017w/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.dy4krms5g3t7.
>>>>>     We are mentioned as participating DC, and the description
>>>>>     contains this sentence that I asked to be added: "It also
>>>>>     considers the application of multistakeholder governance
>>>>>     principles to different networks for instance, the delay and
>>>>>     fault-tolerant networks like the Interplanetary networks.”.
>>>>>     However, the bulk of the text talks about something else, and
>>>>>     I would like to have explicit mention of what
>>>>>     DC-Interplanetary can bring to the session. Note that it will
>>>>>     be tough to add long descriptions, the word limit is 400 and
>>>>>     there are already 445 words. If anybody has proposals, please
>>>>>     suggest.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Also, it will be important to have a panelist from our DC, but
>>>>>     it has to be somebody that can talk about the specific
>>>>>     governance issues of interplanetary communication. If we have
>>>>>     such panelist, we can add a few words about what
>>>>>     DC-Interplanetary does in this context.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>>     Roberto
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     PS: in case you do not have access to the google doc, I paste
>>>>>     the description below and attach a PDF of the file.
>>>>>
>>>>>     This panel will focus on exploring the evolving landscape of
>>>>>     multistakeholder governance in this digital age, with a focus
>>>>>     on the outcomes of WSIS+20 and ensuring that all communities,
>>>>>     including marginalized communities, persons with disabilities,
>>>>>     and young adults and children, as active participants in
>>>>>     shaping the future of IGF. It also considers the application
>>>>>     of multistakeholder governance principles to different
>>>>>     networks for instance, the delay and fault-tolerant networks
>>>>>     like the Interplanetary networks. With the speed at which the
>>>>>     digital transformation advances and the IGF serving as a
>>>>>     global platform for inclusive dialogue, the session will
>>>>>     examine how current multistakeholder models can adapt to
>>>>>     better reflect the perspectives and rights of younger generations.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The Dynamic Coalition on Accessibility and Disability (DCAD)
>>>>>     emphasizes that the future of multistakeholder governance must
>>>>>     be genuinely inclusive—not only in principle but in practice.
>>>>>     As technologies evolve, ensuring the active participation of
>>>>>     persons with disabilities at every stage of policy
>>>>>     development, decision-making, and implementation is critical
>>>>>     to the legitimacy and sustainability of governance processes.
>>>>>
>>>>>     DCAD’s ongoing initiatives, such as the DCAD Fellowship
>>>>>     Program for Persons with Disabilities, provide a tangible
>>>>>     model for promoting inclusive participation. By supporting
>>>>>     fellows to engage meaningfully in the IGF process, DCAD
>>>>>     demonstrates that providing targeted capacity-building
>>>>>     opportunities leads to stronger, more diverse multistakeholder
>>>>>     dialogues.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Looking ahead, DCAD advocates for embedding accessibility and
>>>>>     disability inclusion systematically into the IGF and broader
>>>>>     Internet governance ecosystem. Future governance models must
>>>>>     move beyond tokenism to ensure that persons with disabilities
>>>>>     are recognized as active contributors in decision-making
>>>>>     processes, in line with the UN Convention on the Rights of
>>>>>     Persons with Disabilities (UN-CRPD) and the vision of a
>>>>>     people-centered, inclusive, and sustainable information
>>>>>     society outlined in the WSIS and Global Digital Compact
>>>>>     frameworks.
>>>>>
>>>>>     By institutionalizing accessibility standards and ensuring
>>>>>     that persons with disabilities participate not just as
>>>>>     observers but as decision-makers, the IGF can set a global
>>>>>     benchmark for inclusive, equitable, and effective
>>>>>     multistakeholder governance.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Those taking part will discuss practical strategies for
>>>>>     ensuring that children are not only made to be represented at
>>>>>     the table but are meaningfully engaged at the decision-making,
>>>>>     in line with the WSIS vision of a people-centered, inclusive,
>>>>>     and sustainable information society. Referring to General
>>>>>     Comment # 25, para 16 - 18, multistakeholder governance should
>>>>>     adhere to respect for the views of the child, i.e. young
>>>>>     people under the age of 18 (UN-CRC).
>>>>>
>>>>>     The DC on Core Internet Values will remind all participants of
>>>>>     the values on which the Internet was built on, introducing a
>>>>>     parallel that the points made in this session are themselves
>>>>>     core internet governance values - with multistakeholder
>>>>>     governance being pivotal to the past, the present and the
>>>>>     future of Internet governance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     <Session Submission Drafting Cluster
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