[Bp_ipv6] Recording and chat from call #1 (6/23)

Izumi Okutani izumi at nic.ad.jp
Wed Jun 29 12:31:34 EDT 2016


Dear Colleagues,


Below are the recording and chat text from our Call #1, on 23rd June UTC1600.

Streaming recording link:
https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/ldr.php?RCID=64e3cf4f4c1fab87b07e2b4c42a8083a
Download recording link:
https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/lsr.php?RCID=bc4c2d7d333d2869f49ac02b081e3e6f

Some of the discussions from the meeting were:

* Scope and Goals - no objections observed

* A suggestion was made to reflect cases where IPv6 BPF 2015 have helped in encouraging IPv6 adoption

* Some brainstorming on what aspect of economic element and business cases to be covered in this group

   - An example of Latin American Study was mentioned. 
     The Study analyzes and compared stated of IPv6 adoption in several countries in the region
     https://ripe72.ripe.net/presentations/179-IPv6-LACNIC_RIPE72.pdf

    - What are the regulations which accommodates economic incentives for IPv6 adoption?

   - For case studies, a comment was made that balance in regional coverage is important

   - A suggestion was made that it may be worth sharing IPv6 can be a decision which would be more economical than other technologies

   - How wide do we want to cover?
    e.g., Business cases for those in the IT industry, those do business on the Internet, those who use the Internet for business infrastructure
          Do we cover IPv6 adoption in the conventional Internet, or do we also cover other areas such as mobile, IoT?

Many thanks to those attended the call and proper notes will be circulated before the next call.


I will send a separate email about the Doodle poll for the next call.


Izumi
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?06/23/2016    17:54:50 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	:) haha super!
06/23/2016    17:55:42 PM    from Michael Oghia to Room 1 Host (privately):
	The deployment of IPv6 is the  main issue to keep the internet running
06/23/2016    17:55:46 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	The deployment of IPv6 is the  main issue to keep the internet running
06/23/2016    17:57:52 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Welcome Wim! Great to see you again so soon :)
06/23/2016    17:58:16 PM    from Wim Degezelle to Room 1 Host (privately):
	Hi Michael! Hi Everyone !
06/23/2016    17:59:15 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	I forwarded your annoucement, Izumi, to multiple lists -- including ICANN's MEAC and RIPE NCC's IPv6 lists + MENOG
06/23/2016    17:59:30 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Hi Brian, I didn't realize you were on the call!
06/23/2016    17:59:57 PM    from Room 1 Host to Everyone:
	Hi Michael, all, yes this is Brian Gutterman from the IGF Secretariat (Host 1) - thanks to all for joining
06/23/2016    18:00:12 PM    from Einar Bohlin to Everyone:
	hi all!
06/23/2016    18:00:37 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	hi all
06/23/2016    18:00:40 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Hi Einer, and welcome Wafa!
06/23/2016    18:00:41 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Hi Einar, hi everyone
06/23/2016    18:00:57 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	thank u 
06/23/2016    18:00:58 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Welcome Wafa
06/23/2016    18:01:24 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	Thank u Izumi
06/23/2016    18:01:58 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Let's wait for another minute before we start, to see if there is anyone else who will be joining us
06/23/2016    18:02:46 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Excellent Michael - thank you so much for your help in the outreach about this BPF
06/23/2016    18:03:19 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	It's the least I can do :)
06/23/2016    18:09:56 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	can u hear me
06/23/2016    18:10:52 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	can u hear me 
06/23/2016    18:11:01 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Wafa, you can also type in the chat box
06/23/2016    18:11:07 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	ok
06/23/2016    18:11:19 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Yes Olivier! Welcome
06/23/2016    18:12:10 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Wafa, as Michael has suggested if you can type, that would be great
06/23/2016    18:12:43 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Do you want to join via voice? Wafa
06/23/2016    18:14:07 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	i'm retrying
06/23/2016    18:14:56 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Hi all
06/23/2016    18:15:08 PM    from Room 1 Host to Everyone:
	If you are having audio issues, double-check you microphone settings, and audio connections on your computers or alternative device(s)
06/23/2016    18:15:22 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	sorry for late arrival, also need to go in a few minutes
06/23/2016    18:16:11 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Yeah, but we are about to start here :)
06/23/2016    18:16:24 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	I'm wafa Dahmani from Tunisia Internet Agency which is the local registry in Tunisia
06/23/2016    18:16:25 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	in the back of an OECD meeting in Mexico
06/23/2016    18:16:44 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	'm also member of the national IPv6 council 
06/23/2016    18:17:08 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	and we are setting oiur nation Strategy for the deployment of the IPv6 in the country
06/23/2016    18:17:34 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	our national strategy
06/23/2016    18:17:35 PM    from Susan to Everyone:
	hola, Marco!
06/23/2016    18:18:13 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Do we or can we set deadline on scope & goals?
06/23/2016    18:18:44 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Hi Susan
06/23/2016    18:19:37 PM    from Room 1 Host to Everyone:
	Scope and Goals Doc now Posted in webex room
06/23/2016    18:22:22 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	FYI: so the background here is the general feeling that on the technical level we did everything we could do
06/23/2016    18:22:27 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Yes
06/23/2016    18:22:34 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	We trained them all, the techies are aware
06/23/2016    18:22:40 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	I think this is the logical next step
06/23/2016    18:25:00 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	yes ok -- sorry -- yes it seems only Room  host has the ability to see the hand.
06/23/2016    18:25:11 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	All ok for a new document
06/23/2016    18:25:21 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	I agree with it being a new document
06/23/2016    18:25:24 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Agree here - should be seperate doc as it addresses different people
06/23/2016    18:25:33 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	But obviously link to the first
06/23/2016    18:25:59 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Good to hear!
06/23/2016    18:29:19 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Sorry not to be rude, but there s no evidence of developing countries being disadvantaged here
06/23/2016    18:29:31 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Bolivia is outperforming Denmark
06/23/2016    18:29:32 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Room 1 Host (privately):
	I agree with Marco
06/23/2016    18:29:50 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	just one comment 
06/23/2016    18:29:53 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Peru and Ecador have higher IPv6 adoption than Norway
06/23/2016    18:29:55 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Perhaps it's relevant to African countries only?
06/23/2016    18:30:17 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Room 1 Host (privately):
	In fact, when it comes to technology adoption, there is a well-know phenomenon of 'leap frogging' technologies. TDMA cell phone networks in Africa are a good example.
06/23/2016    18:31:25 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	There is no correlation with GDP it seems
06/23/2016    18:31:35 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Also Marco, is it clear why Bolivia, Peru, and Ecuador are outperforming? It may be useful to include this in the document (or re-state it if it was discussed last year). Also, all of these examples are Latin/South American. Perhaps that is the more relevant metric?
06/23/2016    18:32:10 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	might be that certain regulatory environments might be less supportive of IPv6 - but maybe that is something to address in the sidelines here
06/23/2016    18:32:25 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	as "ecomomic factor"
06/23/2016    18:32:39 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Agreed Marco, let's keep it on the discussion list
06/23/2016    18:32:53 PM    from Einar Bohlin to Everyone:
	Will there be an IPv6 BPF session in Guadalara?
06/23/2016    18:33:01 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	but we have to be careful not to open up to activitist positions that simply try to undermine the regulatory regime
06/23/2016    18:33:04 PM    from Einar Bohlin to Everyone:
	sorry for basic question
06/23/2016    18:33:09 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	I rather have a neutral analysis
06/23/2016    18:33:15 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Room 1 Host (privately):
	is IoT within scope ? 
06/23/2016    18:33:48 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	+1 Marco
06/23/2016    18:36:08 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	comment
06/23/2016    18:37:26 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Lost audio here
06/23/2016    18:37:54 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Same here Izumi
06/23/2016    18:38:04 PM    from Marco Hogewoning to Everyone:
	Is anybody planning to post minutes/summary of this call? Would be useful to have
06/23/2016    18:38:14 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	very faint. It sounds lie Webex is using the wrong mic (maybe the computer's mic rather than a plugged in mic)
06/23/2016    18:38:26 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Yes Marco, including chat
06/23/2016    18:38:56 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Can you type your comments Constanze?
06/23/2016    18:39:03 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	click on Audio & bring up the mic level on Microphone audio sessions
06/23/2016    18:39:07 PM    from Room 1 Host to Everyone:
	Hi all - yes the Secretariat will be taking summary, the chat will be captured and the meeting is also being recorded - FYI
06/23/2016    18:39:07 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	i can type
06/23/2016    18:39:16 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Thanks Brian!
06/23/2016    18:39:19 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Hand
06/23/2016    18:39:38 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	no prob
06/23/2016    18:40:36 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	also Constance appears tobe logged in twice which might cancel out her voice
06/23/2016    18:41:46 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	sorry
06/23/2016    18:41:51 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	i write
06/23/2016    18:42:29 PM    from Room 1 Host to Constanze B?rger (privately):
	remember to send your comments to "everyone"
06/23/2016    18:43:29 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	One idea for content: What can we do to make IPv6 adoption and/or deployment more affordible for businesses
06/23/2016    18:46:06 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Thanks Izumi
06/23/2016    18:46:12 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	I actually don't know
06/23/2016    18:46:34 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	That is a good point: we should probably operationalize and define what entities we are addressing
06/23/2016    18:47:04 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	ISPs? Registries? Content services? etc etc
06/23/2016    18:47:27 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Each group may have different needs and challences
06/23/2016    18:47:30 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	challenges*
06/23/2016    18:49:28 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Great idea Izumi!
06/23/2016    18:49:45 PM    from Sumon Ahmed Sabir to Room 1 Host (privately):
	Yes Michael, each group has some uniq needs and challenges. It would be great if we could find and share commacial and economic advantages for them.
06/23/2016    18:50:03 PM    from Sumon Ahmed Sabir to Everyone:
	Yes Michael, each group has some uniq needs and challenges. It would be great if we could find and share commacial and economic advantages for them.
06/23/2016    18:53:52 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Room 1 Host (privately):
	which video was it ? 
06/23/2016    18:54:02 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Everyone:
	which video was it ? 
06/23/2016    18:54:20 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Everyone:
	ok, i'll check with him
06/23/2016    18:55:59 PM    from Susan to Everyone:
	I have to jump on another call. Take care all and looking forward to hearing next steps!
06/23/2016    18:56:07 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Thanks Susan!
06/23/2016    18:59:33 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	still very faint
06/23/2016    18:59:37 PM    from Izumi Okutani to Everyone:
	Are people able to hear Constanze?
06/23/2016    18:59:46 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	sorry 
06/23/2016    18:59:55 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	not working yet
06/23/2016    18:59:57 PM    from Sumon Ahmed Sabir to Everyone:
	nop. Can't here....
06/23/2016    19:00:06 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjE1ZTLz77NAhXDrxoKHQfuD9UQFggiMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fpulse%2Fnow-youtube-sad-tale-isp-didnt-deploy-ipv6-alejandro-acosta&usg=AFQjCNHaeSKnmupo5W-d7L2YK47cGfUFxg&sig2=VIC0Xu-kAePzXdT9tIpH9w
06/23/2016    19:00:17 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	can she increase her mic level? Clock on Audio & select Computer Audio & slide the input to higher
06/23/2016    19:00:17 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Here's the linkedin post. It was from LANIC
06/23/2016    19:00:26 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	LACNIC*
06/23/2016    19:00:33 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	I can hear ok
06/23/2016    19:01:00 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	i can't
06/23/2016    19:01:21 PM    from Room 1 Host to Izumi Okutani (privately):
	Hi Izumi if you can wrap up in the next couple of minutes that'd be ideal, can run a couple mintues over ..
06/23/2016    19:02:31 PM    from Constanze B?rger to Room 1 Host (privately):
	yes
06/23/2016    19:02:32 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Here is the text that was included: http://portalipv6.lacnic.net/en/the-sad-tale-of-the-isp-that-didnt-deploy-ipv6/
06/23/2016    19:02:43 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	@Michael is this session recorded then we can reload it
06/23/2016    19:02:55 PM    from Einar Bohlin to Everyone:
	thank you Izumi! good call
06/23/2016    19:03:10 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	Thank u Izumi
06/23/2016    19:03:22 PM    from Olivier Cr?pin-Leblond to Everyone:
	Thank you Izumi!
06/23/2016    19:03:25 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	Thank you Izumi!
06/23/2016    19:03:26 PM    from Wafa  Dahmani to Room 1 Host (privately):
	thank u Michael
06/23/2016    19:03:30 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	And Sumon
06/23/2016    19:03:40 PM    from Michael Oghia to Everyone:
	And Brian! #
06/23/2016    19:03:40 PM    from Carlos Martinez to Everyone:
	thank you izumi !


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