[Bp_ipv6] Call for contributions - Preparation (Feedback to questions by: 22nd July)

Michael Oghia mike.oghia at gmail.com
Fri Jul 22 06:48:42 EDT 2016


No need putting the horse before the cart ;-)

Point taken! And agree with the notion of being data/case study-driven (if
i am paraphrasing correctly).


On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh at ripe.net> wrote:

> It is a fair conclusion, but would need to be supported by feedback.
> Feeling we are jumping to conclusions here.
> In my understanding we set out to explore what motivates people to deploy
> IPv6, more specially the economic model and commercial incentives that
> drive the current deployments.
> Now it might be that the opportunity of IoT or other network evolutions
> are a factor here, but IMHO that is to be found out in this process.
> MarcoH
> --
> Sent from mobile, sorry for the typos
> On 22 jul. 2016, at 12:11, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Marco, all:
> Fair point. I understand what you mean, and I think that even merely
> mentioning in the BPF that IPv6 is critical for scaling IoT as well as for
> rolling out 5G it will suffice. I don't necessarily mean that we have to
> dedicate entire sections to it.
> Thoughts?
> -Michael
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:04 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh at ripe.net> wrote:
>> Michael, all,
>> I'm not in favour of directly steering into this, as it quite possibly
>> have too much effect of the scope.
>> Both IoT and 5G are ill defined in terms of technology and use of
>> protocols and addressing. We can only take an educated guess that those are
>> unlikely to develop towards IPv4, for the simple fact there are no
>> addresses available.
>> But more then definition, we again would be looking future "what if"
>> scenarios and as history proves, that has not been a very effective
>> argument to deploy IPv6.
>> No there might be somebody out there who essentially has a business case
>> in which investment in IPv6 deployment is made with an expected return from
>> IoT or a further evolution in mobile networks.
>> In such case I hope they come forward and share that with us, but I would
>> argue and not steer this at this stage by adding specific questions or
>> sections the the output skeleton.
>> Keep it simple and seek for current cases that relate to todays reality
>> of running an access network or providing content or application services
>> to today's Internet population.
>> Just my 2 cents,
>> MarcoH
>> --
>> Sent from mobile, sorry for the typos
>> > On 22 jul. 2016, at 08:06, Michael Oghia <mike.oghia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > About 5G and IoT - I was thinking more about the business aspect (and
>> benefits) of 5G as it connects to IoT. If IoT is to scale, it will need 5G;
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