[Bp_ipv6] Looking for your thoughts - Section on End Users

Susan Chalmers susan at chalmers.associates
Thu Sep 17 02:03:25 EDT 2015

Thank you, Marco and Nathalie.

Olivier, keen to hear your thoughts, too.

All others, as well, please share ideas.

The section could simply serve that purpose - the best practice of asking
for IPv6 products.

Just thinking - might anyone be in touch with the folks at the Consumer
Electronics Association?


Susan Chalmers
susan at chalmers.associates


On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Marco Hogewoning <marcoh at ripe.net> wrote:

> >> Many thanks everyone. I'm working on a calendar for the balance of our
> work. Your thoughts on this subject will assist that exercise.
> >
> > If I recall correctly, Aaron addressed that earlier, by saying that
> end-users should buy future proof internet devices. For example devices
> that support IPv6.
> > Considering a TV, home router, smart meters, etc.
> > I agree with this, but on the other hand, I can say from experience that
> this is not easy. I don’t know an IPv6 enabled smart TV or thermostat at
> the moment…..
> Indeed, while the problem is there I fear we run short of proper examples
> on how to address these. Raising awareness really has his limits and with
> the majority of (cheap) products flooding the market not being IPv6 ready
> it is unrealistic such a campaign would be effective.
> I also had discussions with Civil Society in the past, who were hesitant
> to support an IPv6 statement as they thought it would have negative effects
> for their privacy. Still to deep for the general population to grasp. But
> maybe could serve us and provide some answers to those concerns.
> I think when I put it in the draft structure indeed it was to at least
> have a place for CS input, which might also include some SME perspectives
> who are really just depending on packaged products and consultancy in for
> instance adopting their webshop to be IPv6 compliant.
> Might want to tap into Olivier and see if with his ALAC hat he can think
> of content? Also equally happy to skip it and get rid of the section all
> together.
> Marco
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