[IGFmaglist] When you have not been asked...

Sun May 11 05:06:58 EDT 2014

On 5/9/14, 9:50 PM, "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:

> I gave lots of  Good/can be improved by: Including finalizing speakers.

I did the same. 
> 
> But there are lots of good proposals!

Agree. 

Best
Baher

> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2014, at 11:39, "CARVELL, Mark" <Mark.Carvell at Culture.gsi.gov.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> Filiz
>>  
>> This thought did haunt me as I did my scoring and I recognise the risk
>> ultimately of poor delivery if the key panellists don¹t actually come
>> through. However, I came to the conclusion that the thematic relevance,
>> concept, substantive issue and outcomes should be the key criteria for the
>> initial evaluation  plus some recognition at least of the need for diversity
>> of the lead participants in the workshop, panel, roundtable  or whatever.
>> Otherwise we might well risk losing key workshops early on only because they
>> had not yet lined up their confirmed panellists some 6 months before the
>> event (and we do not receive updates on the proposals). That may be
>> understandable in many cases as potential participants assess their ability
>> to commit during a very intense event schedule. I agree this is a tricky
>> point though.
>>  
>> Best regards
>>  
>> Mark     
>>  
>> Mark Carvell
>> DCMS: Global Internet Governance
>> UK Government
>>  
>> 
>> From: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] On Behalf Of
>> Yilmaz, Filiz
>> Sent: 09 May 2014 15:43
>> To: anriette at apc.org
>> Cc: Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org
>> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] When you have not been asked...
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Apologies for multiple-posting, I need to make a correction on my last
>> paragraph in my previous mail. It should have read:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> ---
>> 
>> ...If I did NOT see clear confirmation of speakers, I found myself not being
>> able to score a workshop with a high score. Panelists are an important
>> integral of the quality of a workshop and I expect organisers to be sincere
>> enough at least to have put the effort and contacted them as a general rule
>> of thumb. 
>> ‹
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> First sentence was missing a crucial ³NOT² in the previous mail.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Filiz
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> On 09 May 2014, at 16:38, Yilmaz, Filiz <koalafil at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> This is very bad.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On a related point, in fact, during Bali this was one of my frustrations as a
>> sole participant too.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So you think there are certain people listed for a panel, maybe this is one
>> of the reasons you even choose a workshop over an other one in the high
>> volume programme and then the speakers listed do not fit with the speakers
>> you actually see at the head table.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I kept hearing this situation, recruiting speakers on the fly, was often
>> spotted to happen at IGFs but actually was improving.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Coming back to Anriette¹s point, this was also the main reason for me to
>> score low in my evaluation of the proposals: If I did to see clear
>> confirmation of speakers, I found myself not being able to score a workshop
>> with a high score. Panelists
>>> 
>>> are an important integral of the quality of a workshop and I expect
>>> organisers to be sincere enough at least to have put the effort and
>>> contacted them as a general rule of thumb.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Filiz
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On 09 May 2014, at 16:12, Anriette Esterhuysen <anriette at apc.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear all
>>> 
>>> I want to note that there are some proposals in which I have been listed as
>>> a co-proposer, or presented without the organisers having asked me to play
>>> either role.
>>> 
>>> So don't be entirely surprised if you see my name on a proposal that does
>>> not look terribly well-developed.
>>> 
>>> Do any other people on the MAG find themselves in this position?
>>> 
>>> Anriette
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> anriette esterhuysen anriette at apc.org
>>> executive director, association for progressive communications
>>> www.apc.org <http://www.apc.org/>
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>>> south africa
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