[IGFmaglist] Virtual MAG meeting VI - Draft summary report

Mon Jul 14 05:44:58 EDT 2014

Agree with Ankhi and supported Mark and Bill's inputs.

I think that the meeting summary - thanks for this to the Secretariat - 
should be revised to include the point made by several MAG members 
during the meeting on being careful about setting a precedent where host 
countries can introduce sessions into the programme outside of the 
transparent and inclusive process of workshop and open forum applications.

This is important both in terms of future IGFs, but also in terms of 
fairness to past host countries who, to my knowledge, did not benefit 
from similar opportunities to get space on the programme (aside from the 
controversial last minute inclusion of the first lady of Egypt, Madame 
Mubarak, at the Sharm IGF in 2009).

Perhaps we need to consider how to accommodate host country sessions in 
the future so that we can plan for these from the outset?

Anriette

On 14/07/2014 10:40, Ankhi Das wrote:
> Great outcome.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 11, 2014, at 5:48 PM, "Chengetai Masango" <cmasango at unog.ch 
> <mailto:cmasango at unog.ch>> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mark and Bill,
>>
>> Many thanks for your comments. They are now as suggested called 'host 
>> country sessions' making them separate and distinct from workshops. 
>>  We will have a better idea of them once the complete information is 
>> available. The host country is in full agreement that they will be in 
>> line with IGF principles.
>>
>> (Apologies for the brevity ? as I am currently traveling) .
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Chengetai
>>
>>
>> *From: *CARVELL, Mark
>> *Sent: *Friday, July 11, 2014 10:30 AM
>> *To: *William Drake; Chengetai Masango
>> *Cc: *MAG-public
>> *Subject: *RE: [IGFmaglist] Virtual MAG meeting VI - Draft summary report
>>
>>
>> Dear Chengetai
>>
>> My apologies if you have already considered the pros and cons but I 
>> think it is preferable for the host country workshops and thematic 
>> sessions (which if I understand correctly would in effect be similar 
>> to national IGF activities) to be conducted in a _separate _programme 
>> outside the global IGF programme -- perhaps in the run up period to 
>> the IGF. This would avoid the serious risk of confusion as to 
>> process, rationale and objectives for these sessions vis-à-vis the 
>> IGF sessions.  There is also a risk of possible concerns being 
>> generated about their impact on the availability of facilities and 
>> resources during the four days of this global event.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Carvell
>>
>> DCMS: Global Internet Governance Policy
>>
>> United Kingdom Government
>>
>> *From:*Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] *On 
>> Behalf Of *William Drake
>> *Sent:* 11 July 2014 10:04
>> *To:* Chengetai Masango
>> *Cc:* MAG-public
>> *Subject:* Re: [IGFmaglist] Virtual MAG meeting VI - Draft summary report
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Thanks Chengetai, the report captures the discussion well.  I would 
>> just like to raise a couple questions for the MAG concerning the 
>> "Host Country Workshops."
>>
>> First, someone suggested---and I alas can't remember whether it was 
>> on the MAG call or off---that it might be good to call these "Hosts 
>> Country Sessions" so as to indicate that they're a different, special 
>> category of events.  This would seem a sensible way to indicate that 
>> they were not part of the MAG process and would not in any way 
>> diminish their standing.  Otherwise, e.g., proponents of workshop 
>> proposals that did not get slots on the program etc. might raise 
>> eyebrows.
>>
>> Second, if they are understood to be a bit different in kind, would 
>> it make sense to be a bit flexible about the conclusion stated in the 
>> report that "MAG members underlined that these sessions need to be 
>> multistakeholder in nature and in line with other agreed upon 
>> guidelines for IGF sessions" ?  For example, while we normally would 
>> require a certain geographic diversity, if the host wanted to do 
>> something nationally or regionally focused, would we object? 
>>  Similarly, as I mentioned on the call, the host has invited a local 
>> university to organize an academic-oriented session, which I've been 
>> asked to help with.  It is a bit difficult to organize an 
>> academic-oriented session on a multistakeholder basis---a panel could 
>> have maybe 1 or 2 academics but the rest would be from other 
>> groupings, and they'd talk about the state of academic research on 
>> Internet governance?  We need guidance here as the local university 
>> didn't understand there to be applicable guidelines and is already 
>> reaching out to academic speakers.  So to avoid confusion and 
>> discomfort, should we say that "Sessions" can be depart a bit from 
>> "agreed upon guidelines" as long as there's transparency/reporting 
>> etc?  Whatever the feeling is either way, it'd be good to get this 
>> clarified before their planning proceeds further.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Chengetai Masango <CMASANGO at unog.ch 
>> <mailto:CMASANGO at unog.ch>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find attached the draft summary report for the MAG virtual 
>> meeting VI.
>>
>> The Secretariat intends to post the summary report on Monday. Please 
>> let me know if they are any suggested amendments
>>
>> The audio file is available here 
>> :https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/ldr.php?RCID=2700324d59e8007f6b853dd7a5b75815 
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=https://intgovforum.webex.com/intgovforum/ldr.php?RCID%3D2700324d59e8007f6b853dd7a5b75815&k=ZVNjlDMF0FElm4dQtryO4A%3D%3D%0A&r=hGcdOh7IQpB6GEYXozeoJg%3D%3D%0A&m=gRx3Ds%2BzNaNwWhzyP1pfJl5BlfmM3Tb2PNJGd9zx2k8%3D%0A&s=79ffde866346916edb4406d902919be39b09f4cd2af4fd2fb0a1a440e74cf716>
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>> Best regards,
>>
>> Chengetai
>>
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