[IGFmaglist] Change of dates for IGF 2014

[Patrick Ryan]

Bill you are absolutely right——and here again:

<start broken record>

This highlights the issue that I’ve raised many, many times: we can’t continue to live the fiction that costs of the IGF in-country are completely separate from the costs of the Secretariat.  Even if they are paid separately, if we continue to turn a blind eye to the holistic purpose of the IGF we’ll continue to get messages like the rationale given here ("The change of dates have been necessitated by the availability of a more cost-effective venue.”)

We need: One IGF, One Budget.   Sources of payment for the budget can be different (e.g., the host country can still be the contributor to the country budget) but if we don’t manage the budget holistically this will continue to occur. 

</end broken record>

Cheers,

Patrick

On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:03 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> In addition to the concerns about reduced attendance and its consequences, I suppose it might also be pointed out to the host that August would raise significant problems for the program planning process.   The greatly accelerated schedule of the first week of September was already going to be quite a challenge for the MAG, workshop organizers, etc.   As Mark noted, the potential benefits of a nicer venue simply cannot outweigh the multiple costs.
> 
> Best
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Jan 24, 2014, at 7:40 PM, Markus Kummer <kummer at isoc.org> wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Mark has eloquently expressed my immediate reaction to these proposed changes. This could well be fatal for the future of the IGF in a year that will be crucial for the evolving Internet governance landscape!
>> 
>> Let's engage in a dialogue with our Turkish hosts to find a solution that works for all concerned.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> Markus
>> 
>> From: <CARVELL>, Mark <Mark.Carvell at Culture.gsi.gov.uk>
>> Date: Friday24, January, 2014 7:32 PM
>> To: Chengetai Masango <cmasango at unog.ch>, MAG-public <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org>
>> Subject: Re: [IGFmaglist] Change of dates for IGF 2014
>> 
>> Dear Chengetai
>>  
>> I would be grateful if you would clarify if this is a consultation with stakeholders or a fait accompli (“request….inform”).
>>  
>> I would recommend rejecting this change of timing to the mid-peak holiday season in Europe. The risk of a likely serious downturn on numbers of stakeholders from Europe and elsewhere in the northern hemisphere would outweigh any venue cost benefit in my view. The immediately preceding preparatory period for finalising workshops, presentations and speeches would also be negatively impacted due to many stakeholders taking holidays in mid-July/August. Most Ministers and Parliamentarians in Europe will also be on their summer break.
>>  
>> This of all years, being prior to IGF mandate renewal in the context of the WSIS+10 review, is not the time to contemplate such a risk of lower stakeholder attendance at the IGF.     
>>  
>> Best regards
>>  
>> Mark
>>  
>> Mark Carvell
>> United Kingdom Government
>>  
>> From: Igfmaglist [mailto:igfmaglist-bounces at intgovforum.org] On Behalf Of Chengetai Masango
>> Sent: 24 January 2014 17:02
>> To: MAG-public
>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] Change of dates for IGF 2014
>>  
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> The Host Country has requested that the dates of the IGF 2014 meeting be moved to 19-22 August 2014. I would be grateful if you could inform your various constituencies of the change in dates.
>> 
>> The change of dates have been necessitated by the availability of a more cost-effective venue.
>> 
>> Apologies for any inconveniences this change may bring.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Chengetai
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