[IGFmaglist] NOTE INVITING COMMENTS ON MAIN IGF SESSION COMBINING "ACCESS" AND "DEVELOPMENT" THEMES
Patrick Ryan
patrickryan at google.com
Fri Apr 25 11:40:13 EDT 2014
Yes, that gives me the same discomfort as well, probably for the same
reasons. I see it as a kind of weakness to acknowledge that women are per
se "disadvantaged/vulnerable" because that strikes me as a concession (an
inappropriate one) that there's something innate about women that would put
them there, rather than as a factor of cultural issues.
Lord. I'm really getting into gender politics discussions and am nervous
about it, please holler if I offend. :-)
But I do think that the question of women in ICT, generally, is something
that we should consider addressing in some way, if possible, at the IGF.
There are all these ITU girls & ICT initiatives that I see, and some other
things. And I hear it now everywhere, it seems. At least it was a fairly
significant hallway topic here at NETmundial.
Should the IGF take this on in any way? Maybe it already is sufficiently
addressed through workshop proposals? In any case, if women isn't (or
shouldn't be) part of one of the categories that you describe below, it
might be too late in our process to insert it.
Anyhow, it's a thought. If we do have any aspect of it in our work,
the Dalberg
study<http://www.intel.com/content/dam/www/public/us/en/documents/pdf/women-and-the-web.pdf>on
women & the web was interesting, I thought. We have a good
relationship
with that firm and if there's a place for it, I'd be happy to see about
making invitations to appropriate people there to join the discussion.
Patrick
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Yuliya Morenets <
y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu> wrote:
> Patrick,
>
> My personal point of view is they /we (actually) are not and should not be
> identified as a part of. But UN and UNDESA put them as a part of, I could
> provide a number of reports/recommendations developed by UNDESA on the
> issue of vulnerable people & ICT and women identified as a part of the
> group.
>
> Yuliya
>
>
>
> Le 25.04.2014 17:18, Patrick Ryan a écrit :
>
> Please forgive my blunt ignorance, I realize that this is may a silly
> question and could rightly subject me to a ton of criticism. Please
> admonish me appropriately, but I have to ask:
>
> The question has really come up a lot here at NETmundial about inclusion
> of women in the governance process (and thus in the information society).
> It's a pretty sad state of affairs, really. The industry is (as with many
> industries) dominated by men globally and the representation of policy
> issues globally gets even worse in that regard.
>
> So here's the question that I'm a little afraid to ask: are women
> considered to be a category of"disadvantaged/vulnerable" in this context?
> (The question makes me a little nervous because I may be unintentionally
> walking in to an area where I don't use the right vocabulary and may
> unintentionally offend).
>
> If so, could we be clearer about that? If not, have we had any real
> discussions about profiling the need for gender issues in the information
> society in one of our main events or plenaries?
>
> Patrick
>
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Yuliya Morenets <
> y.morenets at againstcybercrime.eu> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I'm happy to work together on the preparation of this Plenary session.
>>
>> 1. I would like to include the following as the discussion points for the
>> Plenary, based also on a number of recommendations made in the reports from
>> the workshops last year :
>>
>> - Social responsibility of actors;
>>
>> - Disadvantaged/vulnerable groups in the Information Society;
>>
>> -Human rights and disadvantaged/vulnerable groups in the Information
>> Society
>>
>> 2. I would also recommend to have as a speaker the President of the
>> European Economic and Social Committee, EU body, Mr Henri Malosse, see here:
>> http://www.eesc.europa.eu/?i=portal.en.home
>>
>> 3. Finally, I would recommend as a title the following: Internet policies
>> enabling access as an engine for growth and development.
>>
>> Look froward to continuing our engagement,
>>
>> Yuliya
>>
>> Le 14.04.2014 17:28, Bhatia, Virat a écrit :
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear MAG Members,
>>
>>
>>
>> This has reference to the last 2 virtual MAG meetings and an agreement to
>> hold a main/focus session combining 2 sub-themes “Policies Enabling Access”
>> and “Internet as an Engine for Growth and Development” on September 3, 2014
>> (2nd day) at the next IGF in Istanbul, Turkey. A morning slot
>> requested for a morning slot which would enable maximum participation from
>> politicians and bureaucrats, whose contributions, amongst other important
>> stakeholders, would be key to this session.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Doodle poll results to invite focus session facilitators / organizers*
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the Doodle poll held, 16 MAG members have very kindly
>> volunteered to assist with this session.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Olga Cavalli
>>
>> 2. Hossam Elgamal
>>
>> 3. Subi chaturvedi
>>
>> 4. Virat Bhatia
>>
>> 5. Ana Neves
>>
>> 6. Yuliya Morenets
>>
>> 7. Judy Okite
>>
>> 8. Angelic Alihusain-del Castilho
>>
>> 9. Thomas Spiller
>>
>> 10. Olga Cavalli
>>
>> 11. Shahram Soboutipour
>>
>> 12. Tero Mustala
>>
>> 13. Sardjoeni Moedjiono
>>
>> 14. Patrick Ryan
>>
>> 15. Ankhi Das
>>
>> 16. Christine Arida
>>
>>
>>
>> *A Note for brief inviting comments attached (NIC)*
>>
>>
>>
>> A note for brief relating to the main session is being circulated here
>> for your comments, advice and inputs. This is a first basic attempt to get
>> options for titles, formats, moderators, speakers and most importantly, off
>> the ground for discussion and inputs from all. Based on the inputs a
>> conference call can be proposed amongst contributors and volunteers and all
>> others who wish to join.
>>
>>
>>
>> The NIC is attached. You are requested for initial comments by Thursday,
>> April 24, 2014. The note provides some early outline ideas and invites
>> comments on the issues of:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Background brief on the sub-themes
>>
>> 2. Suggested titles for main session
>>
>> 3. Suggested formats
>>
>> 4. Suggested Moderators / Remote Moderators
>>
>> 5. Suggestions for potential speakers / organizations
>>
>> 6. Suggested Policy questions
>>
>> 7. Suggested for Timelines for execution
>>
>> 8. Request for volunteers
>>
>>
>>
>> Time permitting we could discuss this session on the 3rd virtual meeting
>> of the MAG scheduled for Wednesday, April 16, 2014.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look forward to your first set of comments and ideas by April 24, 2014.
>> We also need some of the volunteers to hold the pen on the document as it
>> develops.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanking you for your cooperation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Virat Bhatia
>>
>>
>>
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> Yuliya Morenets (Ms)
> Executive Director
> TaC-Together against Cybercrime Int.
> Associate Professor,Strasbourg University
>
> 28, rue d'Ypres
> F-67000 Strasbourg
> Tel.: +33369731460
> Mob.: +33607962530
>
> Follow us on Facebookwww.vulnerables.eu
>
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