[IGFmaglist] [BBC] Turkey moves to block YouTube access after 'audio leak'

Fri Apr 4 09:19:48 EDT 2014

Just to remind everyone that there *is no "mandate" for the MAG.*  There is
only a press release.  Please see Item 3(c) of the reform
document<https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/document/d/1IpseDEXj9F25-RQkJWX6ERYl6_K3-jlC0HpTYuqFDCY/edit>that
I've been circulating and iterating for the past year.

This discussion raises several issues for reform in that document,
including Item 3(c) (MAG responsibilities); 3(d) (transparent site
selection); 3(e) (Signature of HCA).  The complications in making progress
on these issues also highlights the need for a true Advisory Board, as
noted in Section 4 of my reform prroposal.

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*patrick ryan *
public policy & gov't relations senior counsel, free expression and int'l
relations
patrickryan at google.com | +1.512.751.5346

On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com>wrote:

> With apologies to be out of sorts due to mild flu for a few days , causing
> me to miss our call.
>
> I prefer we stick to the MAG mandate, as I think that is the strength of
> the MAG, and I recognize the intense amount of work ahead to fulfil our own
> commitments.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:51, "Janis Karklins" <karklinsj at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear MAG members
>
>
>
> In light of ongoing discussion about a statement from the MAG commenting
> on the developments regarding the use of social media in Turkey. I would
> call for moderation and for us not to mix the formal task of the MAG and
> our individual feelings about these developments.
>
> You may recall that the Twitter issue was resolved by a Turkish court
> decision. We should give time for the other issues to be worked through.
> MAG's public statement commenting recent developments would fall outside
> its mandate and may have unintended effects. Let us focus on our task at
> hand: that is to advice the United Nations Secretary-General on the
> programme and schedule for the IGF2014 meeting.
>
> Thank you for your understanding and look forward to our conference call
> tomorrow
>
> Best regards
>
>
>
> JK
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Romero Caballero, Maria Victoria <
> vromero at sre.gob.mx> wrote:
>
>> Agree with Olga
>>
>> V
>>
>> On 31/03/2014, at 07:22, "Olga Cavalli" <olgacavalli at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I agree,  but before issuing a statement, it could be good to recieve
>> comments and feedback about the situation in Turkey from our colleagues
>> from there.
>> Best regards
>> Olga
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-31 9:44 GMT-03:00 Carolina Aguerre <carolina at lactld.org>:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Also, the sole fact that this concern is raised in the list is
>>> worthwhile, since I believe our Turkish local hosts are included in this
>>> list and they will be able to manifest this preoccupation to their
>>> respective authorities.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Carolina
>>>
>>> On 2014-03-30 23:11, Fatima Cambronero wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree, Izumi. I am not thinking about a MAG formal statement but
>>>> just a declaration in which we express our concern.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Fatima
>>>>
>>>>  2014-03-30 23:03 GMT-03:00 Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org [14]>:
>>>>
>>>>  Thank you for the support, Ankhi and Fatima, and while others are
>>>>> still in the
>>>>> week-end mode, what I meant was NOT to have a formal MAG statement
>>>>> as such, but "members of MAG" voluntary sign-up to such statement
>>>>> (first),
>>>>> as we are not supposed to have one political stand as MAG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, I remain open to any other suggestions,
>>>>>
>>>>> izumi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-31 10:59 GMT+09:00 Fatima Cambronero
>>>>> <fatimacambronero at gmail.com [12]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  + 1 about a statement of MAG members expressing our concern in
>>>>>> relation to the blocking of Twitter and YouTube in Turkey.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> Fatima
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-29 12:23 GMT-03:00 Ankhi Das <ankhi at fb.com [7]>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I agree with Izumis proposal. At a min. there should be a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> statement which should be considered.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Ankhi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Izumi AIZU <iza at anr.org [1]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 29, 2014 6:21 PM
>>>>>>> To: "Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org [2]"
>>>>>>> <Igfmaglist at intgovforum.org [3]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: [IGFmaglist] [BBC] Turkey moves to block YouTube
>>>>>>> access after audio leak
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear MAG,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As you are aware, its quite uncomfortable to know the recent
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> development of censorship on social media by Turkish
>>>>>>> Government.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now YouTube after twitter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heres one piece of news/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26773702 [4]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whats next?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think we need to raise voice our concern to the UN and the
>>>>>>> host country of IGF2014 as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There have also been cases where free flow of information over
>>>>>>> the Net was not quite guaranteed by the IGF host countries, but
>>>>>>> showing our concern is at least minimum we can do now, before it
>>>>>>> gets worth and remind them to respect the core value of the
>>>>>>> Internet we are going to discuss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> izumi
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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