[IGFmaglist] Visa issue should be addressed as part of Host Country Agreement!

Fri Oct 18 08:32:03 EDT 2013

That's really terrible. She was supposed to co-chair the Emerging Issues session. 

Raúl 

El 17/10/2013, a las 23:50, Paul Wilson escribió:

> I was very sorry to hear today that Anne-Rachel Inne of AFRINIC has also had to cancel travel to Bali, due to Visa problems.
> 
> This is a big loss to IGF this year, and I hope there won't be too many others.
> 
> Paul.
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> On 18/10/2013, at 11:16 AM, Sardjoeni Moedjiono <moedjiono at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dear Mr. Patrick,
>> After having consult with MCIT and MoFA concerning Ms. Titi Akinsanmi issue, the result is She just has to go to the nearest Indonesian Representative (San Fransisco ?) to get the kind of visa to Indonesia. MoFA sent the letter to all of the Indonesian Representatives. MCIT will send the copy of the letter to her. Hope this answer to ease the process. Thank you.
>> Best regards,
>> Moedjiono
>> 
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>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:09 AM, Patrick Ryan <patrickryan at google.com> wrote:
>> Moedjiono,
>> 
>> Thank you for this update---unfortunately, the news comes way too late for some of the affected participants.  
>> 
>> In the case of our own Titi Akinsanmi (Google's Head of Policy for Nigeria and Ghana) she is with us this week at the Google Headquarters in Mountain View in meetings through the end of the week.  For Titi to receive her visa, she would need to first travel back to Nigeria to pick up her visa and then travel to Indonesia, and the timing and cost for this additional routing is making it very difficult for her to attend because of the extraordinary expense and unconventional routing.
>> 
>> In the case where there are no Indonesian embassies (I believe this is the case for Moldova) the problem is similar.  I don't know how many people are in this category, although I hope that we can talk through this when we are in Bali so as to make sure that this kind of problem is addressed further in advance.
>> 
>> This may be impossible, but if there is any way for the Government of Indonesia to take the extraordinary measure to make sure that visa applicants like Titi and Veronica (and others in that category) can receive their visas on arrival at the airport, this would be a very strong sign of good faith.  It won't be easy, because the appropriate representative from MoFA would need to (a) organize the exception, (b) contact the airlines to let them know (so that they are allowed to board), and (c) issue other letters as may be required.
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>> I realize that such measures may be difficult to undertake at this late hour, but I genuinely hope that the government will consider taking this on.  The universe of people that are in this category is reasonable, and with the appropriate effort, it is possible for a solution to be found.
>> 
>> Patrick
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>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Sardjoeni Moedjiono <moedjiono at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> ID-IGF Committee has just finished meeting with Directorate General of Immigration MoFA on Wednesday (16 October 2013) concerning the visa issue, and all of you who have sent your name to us have been approved. MoFA has sent the decision to all of Indonesian Embassy and representatives all over the world. Please check again to Indonesian Embassy and representatives. Please apologize us for the inconvenience. Thank you.
>> Best regards,
>> Moedjiono
>> 
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>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM, Veronica Cretu <veronicacretu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear colleagues in MAG, greetings and hope this finds you all well!
>> 
>> I know many of you are on the way to Bali and I wish you all a very successful Forum! 
>> 
>> Unfortunately, given that there were no any follow-ups/solutions on the visa for Indonesia (including VOA), I am not able to participate in the forum in person.
>> 
>> I do hope that the visa issue is taken seriously for the next IGFs and this should be one of the issue to be included in the Host Country Agreement if we want to provide access to as many stakeholders from all around the world, including to MAG members!  
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>> We are all advocates of technology, innovation, Internet, however, when it comes to such matters we do not use them in an effective manner to address the challenges we face. 
>> 
>> I wish all of you great success and I am convinced IGF 2013 will be an exceptional event, with several great outcomes!
>> 
>> Will follow you remotely as much as I can, given the great time difference challenge!!! 
>> 
>> With very best,
>> Veronica   
>> 
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>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:37 AM, <moedjiono at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Vlada,
>> Thank you for your information. MCIT has sent the request for VOA for them to Immigration department MoFA. Mr. Anthon from MCIT will inform you concerning this matter. Apologize me for this problem. We have tried hard to solve this problem with Immigration department MoFA. Hopefully it will be solved soon. See you all in Bali. Thank you very much again.
>> Best regards,
>> Moedjiono
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